From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RFQDe-0002Nb-8x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:53:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE25F21C047; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54421C036 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (dsl-67-230-137-10.tor.primus.ca [67.230.137.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 672941B4025 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E9AD392.30503@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:52:34 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b3pre Mnenhy/0.8.2 Thunderbird/3.1.12 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] supporting /usr on separate partition (was: Suggestion for getting rid of udev) References: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> <1318518871.3885.3.camel@TesterBox.tester.ca> <20111013180547.4973defa@googlemail.com> <4416149.yvcg9DIAd9@pc> <4E994AEF.5030002@mailstation.de> <4E9A0414.7030603@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4E9A0414.7030603@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 279aadb6241aac04e4dc9d591f5161ae On 15/10/11 06:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 10/15/2011 01:57 AM, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: >> On 15.10.2011 10:42, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: >>> in what way will exherbo deal wih this mess? Are there any plans? >> >> We don't support /usr on a separate partition. People can, of course, do >> that and I'll point them to dracut for creating an initramfs. >> >> Or they can do whatever works for them. People using Exherbo are >> expected to be able to deal with such stuff. > > I don't think it's a good idea for Gentoo to encourage users to have > /usr on a separate partition. We should probably remove the separate > /usr partition from "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem usage example" in our > handbook: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap2_pre1 > For desktops i've never seen much purpose of having /usr on its own partition (or more than the usual 3 of /boot,/,swap tbh), but for servers I have seen a lot of configurations over the years that put /usr on its own partition. Exherbo aside, I would expect that Gentoo would (continue to?) support doing this. As per the documentation itself, Code Listing 2.1 is i believe an example of what is possible, not what we are encouraging users to do. That doc seems pretty clear that the default is partitioning scheme is the default /boot,/,swap ... And just to confirm, doesn't udev's installation (which is primarily in /lib) support /usr on a separate partition now, without an initramfs?