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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:33:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0D5C14.4070802@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110701030157.GA12364@linux1>

William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> the time has come when baselayout-2.x and openrc are stable on all of
> our architectures. That means that we should look into removing
> baselayout-1 from the tree, removing support for it from our init
> scripts and removing support for migration from the openrc
> ebuilds.
>
> 1. we can remove baselayout-1 from the tree, I think, as soon as bug
> #368597 is closed, because once that is done, all new installs should
> be based on baselayout-2.x and openrc.
>
> 2. The next step is to reverse the changes we made in bug #273138 and
> any other init scripts that have been reacting differently depending on
> whether they were under baselayout-1 or openrc. Optionally we could
> rework init scripts to take advantage of openrc specific features such
> as the *_pre/post functions at this point.
>
> Once this is completed, the init scripts in portage will not support
> baselayout-1, so if anyone is still on baselayout-1 we should find a way
> to encourage them to migrate -- maybe a news item? Also, we should come
> up with a time window that will be published in this news item that will
> mark the end of supporting migration from baselayout-1 to openrc.
>
> 3. The final step is to remove the code from the openrc ebuilds that
> supports migrating from baselayout-1.x. Once we do this another news
> item should be published since this is the point of no return; anyone
> running a baselayout-1 based system will have to re-install to upgrade
> once we drop this support.
>
> Please discuss. Did I leave out any steps? Are there any  points I have
> left out besides the time window between steps 2 and 3? Should there be
> a time window before removing baselayout-1? What about between steps 1
> and 2? What do you consider to be a reasonable time window before we
> stop supporting migration from baselayout-1 to baselayout-2/openrc? I'm
> thinking on the order of a few months, but not years.
>
> Thanks,
>
> William
>
>    

As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as 
well reinstall anyway.  That is usually the advice given on -user.  
After a year without updating, it is certainly easier and most likely 
faster to reinstall.  Almost everything will be updated and there is 
usually a few upgrades that are touchy and will have to be dealt with.

My thoughts, after a year, baselayout1 could be laid to rest.  At that 
point, a reinstall would be the easiest and fastest anyway.

Just a users perspective.  YMMV.

Dale

:-)  :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-01  5:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-01  3:01 [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x William Hubbs
2011-07-01  5:33 ` Dale [this message]
2011-07-01  5:56   ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-07-01  6:21     ` Dale
2011-07-01  7:27     ` Michael Haubenwallner
2011-07-01  9:25     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-07-01  9:45       ` Patrick Lauer
2011-07-01 11:26         ` Duncan
2011-07-01 20:05           ` Duncan
2011-07-01 20:50             ` Rich Freeman
2011-07-01 21:39               ` Duncan
2011-07-02 11:33                 ` Rich Freeman
2011-07-01 14:08     ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2011-07-01 14:34       ` William Hubbs
2011-07-01 15:09         ` Dale
2011-07-01  6:38 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-07-01 11:44   ` William Hubbs
2011-07-01 12:19     ` Ulrich Mueller

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