From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QS11I-0002VY-Ua for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:04:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BC0D1C0BE for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 06:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68EF1C02F for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 05:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.4] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 224FC1BC012 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 05:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4DE721EC.8070101@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:38:52 -0700 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110528 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtual default changes for old users, was: Heads up: libjpeg-turbo stabilization, becoming the default References: <4D8EF63F.10704@gentoo.org> <20110601221550.3b384dec@kruskal.chead> In-Reply-To: <20110601221550.3b384dec@kruskal.chead> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: bd7ab3facaf356c47afe8c8228663f3a On 06/01/2011 10:15 PM, Christopher Head wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:33:03 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> libjpeg-turbo stabilization is happening for amd64/x86 at >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/360715 >> >> - the gentoo-x86 has been converted to virtual/jpeg to support this. >> - we have no bugs reported against the package. >> - libjpeg-turbo is default in virtual/jpeg >> >> so just heads up. >> > > Hi everyone, > > Just a user, not a developer, but: > > The third point of this message made me wonder about something. New > installs will get libjpeg-turbo, as it's the default. Old users may > never know it exists! It seems that making lbjpeg-turbo the default > implementation of virtual/jpeg is expressing some small preference in > favour of it, but old users will never be presented with the choice to > switch. It seems like this is a bit of a gap in package management, > that even if a "better" package becomes available and becomes the > default implementation of a virtual, existing users will keep using the > "worse" package for no other reason than that it's already installed > (and there's no message anywhere even telling them that the change > happened). > > Does anyone think this is suboptimal and that it might be nice to > investigate alternatives? A couple of alternatives come to mind: A) Create a news item to notify people who have media-libs/jpeg installed that there is an alternative. B) Put media-libs/jpeg in package.mask, so that migration happens automatically. -- Thanks, Zac