Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item

[Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org>]

On 04/30/2011 07:58 AM, Brian Harring wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:03:43AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> <snip a lot of crap that is ignoring what I've been asking>
>
> Frankly getting fairly annoyed people are immediately taking it to
> the rhel/ubuntu extremes- that is *not* what I asked and is frankly
> a strawman argument.  Occasional pain on upgrades is a given in
> gentoo, although anyone claiming we've not kept an eye on those sharp
> corners is delusional (versioned eapi, etc-update's very existance,
> portage warning on removal of a pkg in the system set, the list goes
> on).  Hell, even the notification mechanism y'all want to use for
> informing is an example of trying to soften those corners were
> possible, rather than precluding their existance.
>
> I asked if we had looked at scripting away some of the upgrade pains.

This openrc upgrade is the *least* painful Gentoo upgrade I have 
experienced. What a waste of time (IMO) to "script" some defaults.
-Jeremy

>
> It's a pretty simple fucking question requiring either a 5 second
> "no" or 5 minutes of "yes, heres what we looked at, they were deemed
> too painful".  Answering that also is a helluva lot quicker then
> people trading barbs over "we need to release it now" or proper SA;
> while your retort was dead on for what folks should do, it was
> completely unrelated to answering the question I'm *asking*.
>
> If we didn't look into it, that's fine.  Means I've got something to
> poke at over the weekend.
>
> If we did, and it was ruled out, awesome, I have other things on my
> todo list I'll poke at this weekend.
>
> ~harring