From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QDbVK-0008Dc-PT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:00:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 139CA1C0D3; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tommyserver.de (tommyserver.de [85.14.198.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4071C0D1 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.22] (p548DBF3F.dip.t-dialin.net [84.141.191.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tommyserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0634F17431F6 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:59:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DB2BF0F.3020602@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:59:11 +0200 From: Thomas Sachau Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RDEPENDing on packages from overlays? References: <4DB26C3C.8090602@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4DB26C3C.8090602@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=211CA2D4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7D9AD0D60CD4E99E1CCB5AAE" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e2644f27ce2d3841c3db031343190895 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7D9AD0D60CD4E99E1CCB5AAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 23.04.2011 08:05, schrieb Eray Aslan: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D364445 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D364401 >=20 > Basically, there are requests to add packages to RDEPEND in virtual/mda= > and virtual/mta that are not in the official tree but in sunrise. >=20 > On one side, *DEPENDing on a package outside the tree doesn't seem > right. Additionally, keeping track of all the overlays and their > package versions, USE flags and flag changes are potentially too much t= o > track. We will be making changes to a virtual package without testing > whether it works. "Doesnt seem right" sounds like a feeling, but is no real argument for me= =2E Afaik you dont need to track package versions, USE flags or flag changes = at all for those requested additions, so i dont see any potential additional work in the first place= =2E If an overlay package changes and requires an adjustment in the virtual, the overlay maintainer= has to track it and has to request the changes, not much to do on the virtual maintainer side. And s= ince there always is at least one choice in the main tree, it would not even harm other people, i= f the overlay package is broken at any time. >=20 > On the other hand, we are making life (unneccesarily?) difficult for > overlay users by not incorporating the requested changes to the officia= l > tree. >=20 > Comments on how to proceed? Is it OK for a virtual to list a package > which is in an overlay in RDEPEND? >=20 --=20 Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --------------enig7D9AD0D60CD4E99E1CCB5AAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEKAAYFAk2yvxUACgkQG7kqcTWJkGdYEwP/e2pl4APyg/WKkKFYjB0byeCZ sx52jpGcj35efVJ4pu8Wj0OQ58dcDmoCHyj9cMYoouXpHZLQvt1eOlXgRu/z7i1C lvHqudmOxYDcBAPxFE4FqEQmdujwBNkfP1UG2pttILr3YNpUlAJQCF8lNzS+XEHz 4XdiL3Nex6N5Ae17uqE= =RLie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7D9AD0D60CD4E99E1CCB5AAE--