[gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Dmitry Dzhus]

When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
from outdated and obsolete IRC?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Samuli Suominen]

On 04/10/2011 02:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> 
> 

You have to be kidding or trolling :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Dirkjan Ochtman]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 13:00, Dmitry Dzhus <dima@dzhus.org> wrote:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?

We should remember this for Apr 1, 2012.

Cheers,

Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Tomáš Chvátal]

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Dne 10.4.2011 13:00, Dmitry Dzhus napsal(a):
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> 
> 
Hello,
IRC communication is not that obsolete, it still serves its purpose :)
Plus XMPP still does not support ZNC style quite well so you cant be
online 24/7 and have same chat-data/history on all your clients, unless
you ssh somewhere on box where you run CLI XMPP client.

OTOH quite few gentoo devs use XMPP in form of google-talk facebook-chat
or some good old standalone XMPP server...

Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:00:42 +0400
Dmitry Dzhus <dima@dzhus.org> wrote:

> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?

Aren't you aware that Jabber is deprecated? :P

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[George Prowse]

On 10/04/2011 12:00, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
>
Gentoo will always look towards the future for ways to communicate. 
Instead of using a currently popular format such as Jabber we are trying 
to predict the curve so that we dont have to switch from another 
obsolete format in 5 years time.

Currently, research has told us that that the best format for 
communication is MSN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Zhu Sha Zang]

Em 10-04-2011 08:54, George Prowse escreveu:
> Currently, research has told us that that the best format for
> communication is MSN

It is a joke too, right?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Nathan Phillip Brink]

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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:29:56PM -0300, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
> Em 10-04-2011 08:54, George Prowse escreveu:
> > Currently, research has told us that that the best format for
> > communication is MSN
> 
> It is a joke too, right?

This idea of MSN is very much a joke. Noone would possibly support
using it ;-).

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binki

Look out for missing apostrophes!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:51:21 -0400
Nathan Phillip Brink <ohnobinki@ohnopublishing.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:29:56PM -0300, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
> > Em 10-04-2011 08:54, George Prowse escreveu:
> > > Currently, research has told us that that the best format for
> > > communication is MSN
> > 
> > It is a joke too, right?
> 
> This idea of MSN is very much a joke. Noone would possibly support
> using it ;-).

Why not? It's Certified Microsoft(R) Software^TM.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Amadeusz Żołnowski]

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Excerpts from Dmitry Dzhus's message of Sun Apr 10 13:00:42 +0200 2011:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber from
> outdated and obsolete IRC?

You made my day.  Thanks! :-)
-- 
Amadeusz Żołnowski

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Alex Legler]

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On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> 

After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.

Happy trolling,
Alex


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> > When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> > from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> > 
> 
> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.

Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Tomáš Chvátal]

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Dne 10.4.2011 14:11, Michał Górny napsal(a):
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200
> Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
>>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
>>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
>>>
>>
>> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
> 
> Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
> 
What about the diaspora! We need to use that one!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Alex Legler]

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On 4/10/11 2:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200
> Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
>>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
>>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
>>>
>>
>> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
> 
> Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
> 

You successfully missed the joke.

(And please don't CC the senders when replying to the list)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:15:01 +0200
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org> wrote:

> (And please don't CC the senders when replying to the list)

#v+
:0: E
* ! ^List-Id:
* ^(To|CC):.*(gentoo-dev\@lists\.gentoo\.org)
.maildir/.Trash/
#v-

Enjoy.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Sunday, April 10, 2011 08:15:01 Alex Legler wrote:
> On 4/10/11 2:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200 Alex Legler wrote:
> >> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> >>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> >>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> >> 
> >> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
> > 
> > Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
> 
> You successfully missed the joke.
> 
> (And please don't CC the senders when replying to the list)

fix your mail client
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Gilles Dartiguelongue]

Le dimanche 10 avril 2011 à 17:58 -0400, Mike Frysinger a écrit :
> On Sunday, April 10, 2011 08:15:01 Alex Legler wrote:
> > On 4/10/11 2:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200 Alex Legler wrote:
> > >> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> > >>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> > >>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> > >> 
> > >> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
> > > 
> > > Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
> > 
> > You successfully missed the joke.
> > 
> > (And please don't CC the senders when replying to the list)
> 
> fix your mail client
> -mike

fixing like not hitting reply-to-all but only reply ?
I've seen you say this a couple of times but I'm wondering if the
message is properly targeted.

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Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org>
Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:36:42 Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> Le dimanche 10 avril 2011 à 17:58 -0400, Mike Frysinger a écrit :
> > On Sunday, April 10, 2011 08:15:01 Alex Legler wrote:
> > > On 4/10/11 2:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200 Alex Legler wrote:
> > > >> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> > > >>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
> > > >>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
> > > >> 
> > > >> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
> > > > 
> > > > Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
> > > 
> > > You successfully missed the joke.
> > > 
> > > (And please don't CC the senders when replying to the list)
> > 
> > fix your mail client
> 
> fixing like not hitting reply-to-all but only reply ?

no, like getting a real mail client that condenses duplicate msg ids

> I've seen you say this a couple of times but I'm wondering if the
> message is properly targeted.

not everyone receives e-mails from the list
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Dale]

Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:06:56 +0200
> Alex Legler<a3li@gentoo.org>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On 4/10/11 1:00 PM, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
>>      
>>> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber
>>> from outdated and obsolete IRC?
>>>
>>>        
>> After we've moved gentoo.org to myspace.com/gentoo.
>>      
> Myspace is passé. I think cool kids use facebook nowadays.
>
>    

Facebook will be one day too.  Someone will build a better mouse trap 
and people will move on to that too.  Always does.  Well, Gentoo is 
different.  It just gets better so people who like it will stay.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using Jabber for developer communication

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 03:00:42PM +0400, Dmitry Dzhus wrote:
> When will Gentoo switch over to glorious and progressive Jabber from
> outdated and obsolete IRC?

Infra ran a Jabber server for developers from at least 2004 (maybe
earlier, I wasn't heavily involved then) until mid 2008.

Usage was very low (peaked at 6 devs connected in the year I watched
it), and didn't justify the hardware & manpower resources it too.

Our LDAP instead has a gentooIM attribute, and 64 developers have XMPP
accounts list (72 unique JIDs).

A stable public XMPP-MUC only instance (no local users) may have some
value, but I wouldn't expect it to have anywhere near the turnout of
IRC.

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Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead
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