From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4sdM-0003st-Nr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:28:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 062301C10C; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF691C064 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [83.146.207.236] (dyn-207-236-dsl.vsp.fi [83.146.207.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 154E91B40C6 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D9305A4.1070103@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:27:48 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110322 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related References: <4D8EF6F0.8040500@gentoo.org> <20110329223635.GA3565@Eternity> In-Reply-To: <20110329223635.GA3565@Eternity> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9044686f9d920b549c064ccbb9203fa1 On 03/30/2011 01:36 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:36:00AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid >> and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization. >> > > Why didn't you use the news utility to inform users about this change > and possible transition steps/migration guide? This is a rather big > change that might (or may not) require a bit of effort from non-power Let's stop here. The mask has effect only on some 5-6 packages in tree, and not even that many if you count only latest. The big changes happened long before this when each desktop stopped supporting it and it falls under the umbrella of said desktops to inform their users if they feel it's necessary. > users to migrate their systems to the new backend. A short summary of > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html > would be nice but I guess it is too late for that since another > major change occurred without advertising it properly to our users. I don't like the idea of using unofficial forums posts in official news items. That said, tampakrap converted the post to guidexml once, but it needs polishing up. Volunteers are required to clean it up. That said, I still support the idea of news item, just not the idea of you trying to dump the responsibility from the desktop maintainers to me... - Samuli