From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3y66-0002Cv-Ky for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:06:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FBFE1C149; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE7F1C09D for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [83.146.207.236] (dyn-207-236-dsl.vsp.fi [83.146.207.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E15341B4164 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D8FB491.9050705@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:05:05 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110322 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related References: <4D8EF6F0.8040500@gentoo.org> <4D8FA878.9070005@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 04aa79d228858c1c782e46fbbbbe28f2 On 03/28/2011 12:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, R=E9mi Cardona wrote: >> Le 27/03/2011 10:36, Samuli Suominen a =E9crit : >>> Also, both udisks and upower now have blockers for sys-apps/hal to >>> prevent overlapping features. >> >> I know you want to kill HAL with a vengeance. I don't disagree with th= e >> ultimate goal but I think you've gone too far. >> >> HAL and u{power,disks} are _perfectly_ parallel installable and there >> are absolutely _no_ conflicts between the two. >> >> Blockers should be used for _file_ conflicts, not for _feature_ >> conflicts, otherwise we'd have to mask and get rid of half (or even >> more) of all the packages we provide in portage. >=20 > latest pciutils blocks hal, so i think that should cover the "urge > people to migrate" aspect in ~arch > -mike >=20 I've changed this to be a bit more friendly. As you pointed out, pciutils is one. And ~arch version of upower is second. KDE really needs to step up and get KDE 4.6.x stabilization bug open, and this non-issue would become moot ;-)