From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PmnNS-0005GA-Fq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:13:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35885E0ACE; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE90CE0AB4 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (abng116.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.7.252.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: phajdan.jr) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A49B31B4027 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D514126.4030002@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:12:06 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?IlBhd2XFgiBIYWpkYW4sIEpyLiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations References: <20110207205059.GA10939@bookie> <1297165414.2669.1@NeddySeagoon> <20110208120348.GA13292@bookie.wireless.manchester.ac.uk> <20110208122235.GD28923@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20110208122235.GD28923@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC1ACED7374AB10CD4A6C7590" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f48cba8e4252ba88d1eb219278c49f81 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC1ACED7374AB10CD4A6C7590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tl;dr - can we add more automated tests to auto-generated stages? On 2/8/11 1:22 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > Hmmm, odd. I experience amd64 (stable) as being pretty stable on my=20 > servers. Last breakage which really got me upset was php, but > that's already some time ago. Makes sense. Most of the breakages I had in mind when starting this thread were related to consolekit/policykit/login manager/de breakages, or some desktop software not compiling with an updated gcc. Those issues generally don't affect servers. By the way, to turn this thread into some action: what testing do we currently perform for auto-generated stages? It'd be cool to at least compile-test that the stage can "emerge -e world" itself, and emerge some common packages (with FEATURES=3D"test" so that we run at least some= of the produced code). > With Gentoo you should update on fairly regular intervals, and have > the time inbetween as short as possible, but 2 or 3 weeks appears to > be fine. I myself have a cronjob that syncs every night, and mails > me the output of emerge -Dupv world. When this list gets too large, > it's typically about time to do some updating. Sounds like a good idea. I think I'll start using it. > I have masked new major releases of PostgreSQL and MySQL for > instance, and of course Python 3. Yeah, this ease of masking is a great strength of Gentoo. --------------enigC1ACED7374AB10CD4A6C7590 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk1RQSoACgkQuUQtlDBCeQIF6QCePoT8Swj903PTew86CI8CyvBd 2MEAmgL+Kav2xa/hD8O1t2Db777l4wPR =Ekdb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC1ACED7374AB10CD4A6C7590--