From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ondzw-00062j-TM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:52:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1618E07BD; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E402E0757 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.7] (cpe-74-77-194-18.buffalo.res.rr.com [74.77.194.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA4B91B4006 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C72DA66.7010206@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:30:30 -0400 From: "Anthony G. Basile" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100802 Lanikai/3.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo References: <201007041630.07537.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <201007041702.43848.vapier@gentoo.org> <201007050004.41284.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <201007041815.44902.vapier@gentoo.org> <1278291821.2567.3.camel@TesterTop4> <4C72D858.8030209@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C72D858.8030209@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6f2161df-c693-4419-9817-5d1831e08580 X-Archives-Hash: 702154a83553cb4deefeb44418edb9ff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/23/2010 04:21 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 07/05/2010 03:03 AM, Olivier Cr=C3=AAte wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it >>> certainly doesnt warrant a paniced "the sky is falling" message. >> >> I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid custom crap and >> switch to SystemD, PolicyKit, NetworkManager, etc. Anyone with half a >> brain already dropped our stuff. And the lack of use of modern tools i= s >> the reason I don't use Gentoo on my work computer anymore. >> > > Not suitable for all our use-cases, not as stable as openrc nowadays, > not as fast as suggested and for server usage plainly wrong. > > I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. > > lu > Agreed. For example, if one does cluster management with pacemaker or heartbeat you need to stick to more traditional shell based init scripts. Except for the lack of manpower, it would be nice to offer our users different flavors of system startups, but dropping openrc would not be a good idea. - --=20 Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxy2mYACgkQl5yvQNBFVTWXagCeMSxOP31Ze32pexpBLh9m0H0T u5UAnjhiMPMGjnu5MULrfwibGORBC31A =3DUXGG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----