From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OndWp-0002xi-Bq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:22:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F55EE0953; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547F1E0877 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (dynamic-adsl-94-38-245-103.clienti.tiscali.it [94.38.245.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EB3E1B4131 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C72D858.8030209@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:21:44 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100708 Lightning/1.0b2pre Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo References: <201007041630.07537.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <201007041702.43848.vapier@gentoo.org> <201007050004.41284.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <201007041815.44902.vapier@gentoo.org> <1278291821.2567.3.camel@TesterTop4> In-Reply-To: <1278291821.2567.3.camel@TesterTop4> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 31a009da-de54-47e5-8f2c-c4f57ed0d317 X-Archives-Hash: 7751f6e9d15613512d7f3658c4ee3b51 On 07/05/2010 03:03 AM, Olivier Cr=C3=AAte wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. = it=20 >> certainly doesnt warrant a paniced "the sky is falling" message. >=20 > I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid custom crap and > switch to SystemD, PolicyKit, NetworkManager, etc. Anyone with half a > brain already dropped our stuff. And the lack of use of modern tools is > the reason I don't use Gentoo on my work computer anymore. >=20 Not suitable for all our use-cases, not as stable as openrc nowadays, not as fast as suggested and for server usage plainly wrong. I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. lu --=20 Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero