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From: Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:43:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C72C162.5080309@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282588096.4313.12.camel@TesterTop4>

On 23/08/10 02:28 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 19:09 +0100, Mike Auty wrote:
>> On 23/08/10 18:26, Olivier Crête wrote:
>>>
>>> Other distributions are going one step further and are going for
>>> shell-free boot. We should follow that lead.
>>>
>> Why?  Presumably they're doing it by writing programs that do their own
>> parsing and executing, which means they'll need a maintainer just for
>> that program and they'll have to go through a few iterations to get the
>> initial bugs out, and then people will have to learn how to use the
>> different-yet-again language that goes with it.  Why not rely on a
>> prebuilt parser that devs already have to know to look after ebuilds?
> 
> Systemd uses ini style files for configuration (and symlinks). So there
> really isn't much of a parser in there. And obviously, they're going
> through some bugfixing right now, so when F14/F15 are out there, we can
> just take their complete solution ;)
> 

What are you actual complaints about openrc? What is wrong with using
shell for bootup, it works, it's fast (especially with openrc's ability
to be executed with dash) and _extremely_ flexible.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-23 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-04 14:29 [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo Lars Wendler
2010-07-04 15:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-07-04 18:23   ` Daniel Schömer
2010-07-04 15:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2010-07-04 18:35   ` Markos Chandras
2010-07-04 19:39   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-07-04 20:09     ` Jory A. Pratt
2010-07-05  2:23       ` Richard Freeman
2010-07-05  3:32         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-07-05  8:57           ` Duncan
2010-08-23 15:05             ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2010-08-23 15:16               ` Jory A. Pratt
2010-08-23 16:25               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-23 17:26               ` Olivier Crête
2010-08-23 18:09                 ` Mike Auty
2010-08-23 18:28                   ` Olivier Crête
2010-08-23 18:43                     ` Patrick McLean [this message]
2010-08-24  9:19                 ` Patrick Lauer
2010-08-24 12:57                   ` Thilo Bangert
2010-08-24 14:30                     ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-24 16:38                       ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-24 17:18                         ` Christian Faulhammer
2010-08-25  3:21                           ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-25  3:57                             ` Nathan Zachary
2010-08-25  4:14                               ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-25 16:37                               ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-25 19:06                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-25 20:16                                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-26  0:29                                     ` Duncan
2010-08-26 17:02                                       ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-26 18:29                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-27  1:55                                           ` Duncan
2010-08-24 16:19                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-24 19:07                       ` Thilo Bangert
2010-07-05 13:03           ` Anthony G. Basile
2010-07-04 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2010-07-04 21:02 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-04 22:04   ` Lars Wendler
2010-07-04 22:15     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-04 23:23       ` Lars Wendler
2010-07-05  1:03       ` Olivier Crête
2010-07-05  1:30         ` Brian Harring
2010-07-05 16:11           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-07-05  3:23         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-05  4:13         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-07-05 16:13           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-07-07  0:56             ` Doug Goldstein
2010-07-05  7:29         ` Patrick Lauer
2010-08-23 14:17         ` Jon Portnoy
2010-08-23 20:21         ` Luca Barbato
2010-08-23 20:30           ` Anthony G. Basile
2010-08-23 21:07           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-24  9:08             ` Luca Barbato

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