From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Odnzz-0005Og-LO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0551EE09B9; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from petteriraty.eu (petteriraty.eu [188.40.80.83]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C604CE0832 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.219] (qiz3.kyla.fi [82.130.46.219]) by petteriraty.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB390395B6 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C4F1817.4020903@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:32:07 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fi; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090916 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] News item announcing as-needed (glep 42 stuff) References: <4C4DF012.80209@gentoo.org> <20100727163901.0197111e@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <4C4F0C40.2030004@gentoo.org> <20100727185112.2f267f3a@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: <20100727185112.2f267f3a@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=B8E4ECF0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig29B5E00621AB20A4EA2D3B21" X-Archives-Salt: b149b207-ebb7-40c7-982c-890196c65345 X-Archives-Hash: 8fa00b0d52192f7160fb1e5d1a486caf This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig29B5E00621AB20A4EA2D3B21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/27/2010 07:51 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:41:36 -0700 > "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >=20 >> On 7/27/10 7:39 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:29:06 +0200 >>> Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal wrote: >>> >>> Is it time yet? I still find a lot of packages that do not even >>> respect LDFLAGS yet - when all these get fixed to respect LDFLAGS, >>> we will probably find yet more packages that are problematic with >>> --as-needed. >> >> I think that the arch teams doing the stabilizations are a good safety= >> net against that. And having --as-needed by default makes those issues= >> easier to detect. >=20 > Not entirely true, because as I tried to explain, a package needs to > first respect our LDFLAGS to respect our --as-needed in the second > place. Since the QA trigger in portage is based on --hash-style=3Dgnu, > you'd have to make that the default as well to find a package > ignoring LDFLAGS... >=20 But adding --as-needed by default does not (now) break packages not respecting LDFLAGS. Regards, --------------enig29B5E00621AB20A4EA2D3B21 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMTxgXAAoJEPeUsk245OzwUtQP/iAFSsaBd2SO+YR5B+Uoa/yC vqM4SQ+Vzht2gn8SrxbCV9Xq/u3S1f6c6tpj7RRj4RVoxHGLhtXc8Jqt3wObkAfq bOFL3GfZMXCN/7Kd5YEfzlE4dyiLvpZDbsptJk6lJJ9LuTiNwfs0aognyabpTnQY 9t4SwSEJTN3jS1AEKibKxnr50KYAIXPKciooOeEUU+ZCG8cS/mVa7kip8x4OZy66 vqHFAH3eT6STnQFch7fGW5wk2ZqEF8PICE8HRfESwGKc4qcTu1a6prTd800upM5P WeZ8DHibKRlLmEkLLQOyFf66eWJtFh92W5CQMwRFVCaHZVEkTWyLkDFlPkadMRFb Veu+UhCCIKQY9xlFYLxcT34RvrTjxpI1hbgwoNy/xmq6HfkYdOns8nlIooVhkSf8 7Y3knI8+E63lXTyALeuWKD+Xfl5Al4Q8KhAVO5ZXBAnX4O5TZ9yIdtH+Ukl21lfD e97tVZrZau4YTIqdA4Lmopqzma2iCNhi/7FPDB/+b2llUdbruJ+ACO+vlMn/q0xn S64Euq1yCaXuWPgLFstxvGFSYxbZFkdga59WzLkna4fGvUbj/TKQdCMQjCMZdzCz iGKrbOsWH0Ej07oUTcVDDmL6iAJhIazFoa2dlFX3Vn6JgUj3As5dvIfuO52/ipGB /5ciZrvoJ8Rrxe2e+oTd =mSG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig29B5E00621AB20A4EA2D3B21--