From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OXzfk-00050g-8O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:46:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74672E08AC; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from petteriraty.eu (petteriraty.eu [188.40.80.83]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1569E087B for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.226] (qob2.kyla.fi [82.130.46.226]) by petteriraty.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D92C2341D9 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C39F59C.9030708@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:47:24 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fi; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090916 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others References: <4C37A114.9070604@gentoo.org> <4C381392.5050505@gentoo.org> <20100710083437.GA6598@hrair> <20100710210258.2005f27c@gentoo.org> <4C39BDCE.3010602@gentoo.org> <4C39F356.1090200@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C39F356.1090200@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1 OpenPGP: id=B8E4ECF0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE03D401DC0CB15570D9A9324" X-Archives-Salt: d0c153a2-2b77-4e02-819e-854552f4bc9f X-Archives-Hash: ee3a062a6a66e5eb56d74b460bf20d8d This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE03D401DC0CB15570D9A9324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >=20 >> Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say "oh we have to stop >> development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor". The >> council's purpose is to help decide between different technical >> solutions and encourage people to move forward on one unified path. >> The council's purpose is not to HINDER development as your responses >> clearly suggest you would like to hinder eclass development but >> instead to promote positive development. >=20 Original rules (as they were when I joined 2005): You are only allowed to add to the public API of an eclass. Eclass removal addition: Since then council has approved the ability to fully remove eclasses: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20090528-summary.txt Under discussion: Extend the rules to allow developers to remove functions from the API of an eclass. To me this seem exactly like: "The council's purpose is to help decide between different technical solutions and encourage people to move forward on one unified path." >=20 > About the issue in discussion, Petteri was recalling that contrary to > what anyone new to Gentoo might conclude from the current discussion, > the issue of eclass deprecation has been subject to at least 2 separate= > discussions in the past 2 or 3 years and that in the last round there > was a proposal for setting minimal deprecation time frames. >=20 There's already an approved process for eclass removal (see link above). If we allow removal of functions I think there should a similar set of rules as for eclass and package removal. Regards, Petteri --------------enigE03D401DC0CB15570D9A9324 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMOfWhAAoJEPeUsk245OzwdwcP/3DFg0nl5oQhkhLcL/fBjmM5 6T2cWwVBkP4tpx97dMxyRRxpWuqasrcMyFO5ugFs6962QrjgX0T0Ml6wW2cZ3eSY 4s0z2+Zp/CtID1KpOdeKLR60n/kQkdpXy4duly+ayU0AApMDvkD72az36HpERjoF LKxcTRTkDEVTRop8AlqsqE++Wt4uSmMPJxcBabHPmMPR3y7+FdjWTREVQYttpiOg 4XSrWxXE/sMGhxnaBhzsUh1t89fLoYYUwuo8JXazGrShv7uKUDTnc6CROYiczMla KrMSR39gMjbtjHHvQ+Xa4NBumps+A0KtIeoeg0bbsCUd1gbN0Y7v0qrxKv7iOALT /UNUHMVRbgWRmF27Ac1jOLbDQXuTDs2JTekKYeHeUlECkePoGa2F8juUtd+wlEZI R9vWx4ZLhVrhXaAL34pjFC3cZl06WCvLuaZIEq/5v2QJgOceWpUa3e3CNPV6T5QN uHDxxHxoJeTBgHmISZUlPah1V2Al3ZC2bDQHBw9wa68DFmgx3QUOLdPjT6tJkn/M /lhNAESfXEUHCwbg6oj2vJiZNyu910uPtZsSs0b/IYds1NUv1pvHGs/vBsNCJNPU jpUJ0Eak2o7DgqJ3DxV915QLHGWPlHYMTzq3U6pqAk88USMFxB76F6abxOzuhbvb HD61G2fbUQuLQ/1DchNe =CW7y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE03D401DC0CB15570D9A9324--