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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 09:03:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C31D805.7010100@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilNboJOsAKRTzaf4HSEYGXSRot71afLy8lCIHZg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 07/04/10 23:32, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On 07/04/2010 04:09 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you not on the #gentoo-dev channel, I just announced I am
>>> gonna be looking at the openrc code and fixing the bugs and working to
>>> continue the development. Anyone that is interested in helping please
>>> feel free to contact me off list to discuss how we will handle getting
>>> openrc back on track.
>>>
>>
>> Well, openrc isn't any worse than baselayout-1 for upstream support.
>> However, I do agree that we should strongly try to standardize on
something
>> that is more cross-platform if possible.
>>
>> I'd rather not push to make openrc stable (which means lots of
migration for
>> users), only to then move to something else anyway.  Why have two
migrations
>> when you can just have one?
>>
>
> The reason why people want to do an openrc migration right now is
> because we don't know when we'll find something else to move to; make
> it work with gentoo, make it work for everyone, iron out all the bugs,
> and push it to stable. In all probability, and looking at our past
> experience with pushing openrc to stable, it *will* take years. It's
> too much work to maintain both baselayout-1 *and* openrc *and* find
> something else to move to. It's best to move to openrc (which has
> numerous benefits over baselayout-1, and has a maintainer now), and
> then see what we can do.
>

That's true, but there's also the fact that openrc has merits which
make it an attractive choice --- it is not just that we're stuck with
it.  We've all used other init systems.  I like openrc best.  Its
excellent for servers and compatible with all the goodies people want
on desktops.  It is one of the features that attracted me to Gentoo.
I'm going to be helping Jory and Patrick with this one.  If people
feel strongly that we need another init system, it would be
interesting to have Gentoo compatible with others (although this
sounds like quagmire).  However, I wouldn't want to see openrc go.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-05 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-04 14:29 [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo Lars Wendler
2010-07-04 15:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-07-04 18:23   ` Daniel Schömer
2010-07-04 15:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2010-07-04 18:35   ` Markos Chandras
2010-07-04 19:39   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-07-04 20:09     ` Jory A. Pratt
2010-07-05  2:23       ` Richard Freeman
2010-07-05  3:32         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-07-05  8:57           ` Duncan
2010-08-23 15:05             ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2010-08-23 15:16               ` Jory A. Pratt
2010-08-23 16:25               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-23 17:26               ` Olivier Crête
2010-08-23 18:09                 ` Mike Auty
2010-08-23 18:28                   ` Olivier Crête
2010-08-23 18:43                     ` Patrick McLean
2010-08-24  9:19                 ` Patrick Lauer
2010-08-24 12:57                   ` Thilo Bangert
2010-08-24 14:30                     ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-24 16:38                       ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-24 17:18                         ` Christian Faulhammer
2010-08-25  3:21                           ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-25  3:57                             ` Nathan Zachary
2010-08-25  4:14                               ` Joshua Saddler
2010-08-25 16:37                               ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-25 19:06                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-25 20:16                                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-26  0:29                                     ` Duncan
2010-08-26 17:02                                       ` Richard Freeman
2010-08-26 18:29                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-27  1:55                                           ` Duncan
2010-08-24 16:19                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-24 19:07                       ` Thilo Bangert
2010-07-05 13:03           ` Anthony G. Basile [this message]
2010-07-04 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2010-07-04 21:02 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-04 22:04   ` Lars Wendler
2010-07-04 22:15     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-04 23:23       ` Lars Wendler
2010-07-05  1:03       ` Olivier Crête
2010-07-05  1:30         ` Brian Harring
2010-07-05 16:11           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-07-05  3:23         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-07-05  4:13         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-07-05 16:13           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-07-07  0:56             ` Doug Goldstein
2010-07-05  7:29         ` Patrick Lauer
2010-08-23 14:17         ` Jon Portnoy
2010-08-23 20:21         ` Luca Barbato
2010-08-23 20:30           ` Anthony G. Basile
2010-08-23 21:07           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-24  9:08             ` Luca Barbato

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