From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQtNI-0007hF-Ie for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:38:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E2DCE0C36; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609F4E0C0F for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (e177090093.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.90.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78661B40F5 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C202200.5010008@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:37:52 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping References: <1276977363.2635.0@NeddySeagoon> <4C1F9460.2020803@gentoo.org> <4C1FDB72.3020609@gentoo.org> <20100622014611.GA24755@hrair> In-Reply-To: <20100622014611.GA24755@hrair> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b0662dce-6c9a-406a-ae4c-4043daa2fec7 X-Archives-Hash: e471ed9ede9a533dba08e089f76cabe0 On 06/22/10 03:46, Brian Harring wrote: > Your proposed solutions in your manifesto is to just throw out the > manifest bits that need completion, in the process ignoring the > infrastructural and security reasons for their existance. Same goes > for ignoring the commit hooks chunk for rsync generation (after all, > we can't just tell every gentoo user that "by the way, we're no longer > going to update rsync"). The Git migration is taking us 2 years already because it's taken too far. We need to look at what's really needed of that now. I'll speak to Robin before I go into further details here. > I'd be a bit less critical of your offer here and the manifesto > presented, if it was actually factual and at least a partially > accurate understanding of the issues outstanding. I read that as a pretty hard accusation. Are you referring to the Git migration or the manifesto as a whole? Please make clear where exactly my manifesto is not factual. > At the very least, I suggest you actually have a chat w/ Robin > directly and get caught up on what the issues are rather than making > claims about his work that are pretty far off base. Earlier today I wrote to him asking for his number to be able to call him tomorrow. > Also please note Arun's actual question was "what have you done to > help", not "what skills do you have". There is difference- one I'm > guessing that is being lost in the language barrier. I am aware of that difference. Sebastian