From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQoDb-0000iU-SF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:07:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF803E078A; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AB5E0B3F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (f052102085.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.52.102.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5461B40E7 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1FD495.7070105@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:07:33 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping References: <1276977363.2635.0@NeddySeagoon> <4C1F9460.2020803@gentoo.org> <4C1FAD5E.9030906@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1FAD5E.9030906@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 626aa986-327d-4ebc-9b47-29be7a0500f7 X-Archives-Hash: 1cf5f8fd0b7c89a13b2e6e1255617fe0 Petteri, On 06/21/10 20:20, Petteri R=E4ty wrote: >> My manifesto up here now: >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt >=20 >> - Building sites >> - Active Council >> - More direct democracy >> - New conflict resolution team (reforming DevRel) >> - Ownership and territories >> - The two sides of infra >> - The Git migration >> - Opening up documentation >> - Gentoo PR: Database and frequent news >> - Internal news (i.e. increasing transparency) >> - (Paid external) website re-design >> - Introducing templates (e.g. for bug replies) >> - Tone and attitude in Gentoo >> - Other (minor) things >=20 > How many hours do you expect to use weekly to accomplish all these goal= s? I will not be able to do this alone - I need the rest of the council and Gentoo to team up with me on this, no doubt. A diploma thesis is coming up soon - that will take time away. Apart from that Gentoo is among my top 5 focuses. The numbers of hours I put into Gentoo per day will range from 0 to 16 hours. >> To my understanding the conflict resolution part of DevRel is currentl= y not working effectively. >=20 > If we are not working effectively it's not because of how we are > organized but due to needing more man power. As I have mentioned before I respectfully disagree with this statement. > The good thing is that > people have offered to help and I am slowly training us new members. I would be interested in details on how DevRel is training people. Best, Sebastian