From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQj8X-0006ay-SL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:42:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7717FE09CF; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from petteriraty.eu (petteriraty.eu [188.40.80.83]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB89E0959 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.226] (qob2.kyla.fi [82.130.46.226]) by petteriraty.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE1A4357A3 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1F88DE.1080708@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:44:30 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fi; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090916 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel References: <4C196595.20600@gentoo.org> <4C19D43C.6080207@gentoo.org> <4C1A38AB.2080907@gentoo.org> <4C1A4321.2040201@gentoo.org> <4C1A85C5.4070305@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1A85C5.4070305@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: id=B8E4ECF0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBC88D6EFDA8E6F1DFA929112" X-Archives-Salt: 9c2a5528-1c72-4847-884f-216a67fe2d8c X-Archives-Hash: 9e57491bc0ba95fbeae215bed1640887 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBC88D6EFDA8E6F1DFA929112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/17/2010 11:29 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Petteri, >=20 >=20 > On 06/17/10 17:45, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: >> We communicate in English but that doesn't mean we all the same cultur= al >> background. My native language doesn't do small talk and doesn't have = a >> word for please. Of course when writing English I try use please when >> required by the other party but sugar coating wouldn't have changed wh= at >> I wanted to communicate with my message. >=20 > the point of this thread is not the introduction of "sugar coating" > (pretending to be nice in my words) as you call it. To me it's about > turning Gentoo into a friendly and helpful community. (So it's actually= > not just about tone but the things coming before the tone, too.) >=20 On 06/17/10 09:52, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > >> Wrong mailing list. This thread belongs to gentoo-project. > > that's what I am referring to with "tone in Gentoo". > I want the other 80% of you on the council. > How would you have liked this to be written then? >=20 >> It would just increase the time >> needed to write the message and raise the risk of getting misunderstoo= d. >> A short and to the point message is the easiest to understand. >=20 > Yes, being friendly may take more words. Isn't it in your own best > interest to have the other side not get pissed? Isn't that worth a few= > more words? >=20 I don't see anything unfriendly in my first reply. This thread doesn't have anything technical and as just doesn't belong to gentoo-dev. As DevRel lead I think it's my duty to remind developers how our mailing lists are meant to be used. Regards, Petteri --------------enigBC88D6EFDA8E6F1DFA929112 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMH4jjAAoJEPeUsk245Ozw9GQQAKSE5H8XoX6bRDVX3WFAMmyd tyMLiWehYR1e8C9bvOSgb2k4aw/XtH6fYkIm//B3a8TW7GyGAPeoqy+WnZURTuJC MaX4c7U3/Ci2IcfgSaSK3iZ7IhH3IS/XH1OqB3zfGgEGj9TiGZN4vHIGcRcYIp2q 6D5kA+pEXOJTLTD1PKVX6JQkhSMTB9iCxBq6iUDOI/fxIphOs5Jg9Pxu05ZnLnHs ISgMr3FbtnTp4grnR2FjUJnzV378U8qD4c32rcsrttCaBu4pmEBSUAxps8ZLpgGd cgNxglvrDcOtVAWL63dPXRyopglNV2PwDaVRU1V1iEGRw5mX1X3dZIOdToFlUtwV RPFEhC/5nWvK+8BY/sHXGzPiOsBR5qfiGV1uCJs38U/IkJ8ApvMLnBotIC5wObpk UJokRUyccChfomm3n8imjguUAoasxyIUqakAbRnLaJE4aygYq1DdNAUpuJcIhs7w SAkz7ls7D7ajmh0d9QFbx5Nz3K8mhWPZQR27NGFj5NMab4lBQd2Mh3BxZ41hOsqx X2Y10UeHTjry1zt6yUtMenx++Otx0vPFkkvLkvOALkn5ehO6cyPni7RwGGZFp9Ng cSKfyumHUnmzSoajT1NSLH5jdvlSxNVvtn4+eYOJTpAj+P+A/JoQsWPpBdUAUa15 M/y/+KQVS8A0xk9+/5We =jOC2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBC88D6EFDA8E6F1DFA929112--