From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ3EI-0001Hy-HS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:57:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ABEDE09C9; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDADE0928 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (e179003172.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.3.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A641B40B5 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1D12FF.9020001@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:57:03 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> <4C1C2A90.1020603@gentoo.org> <4C1C6725.4090109@gentoo.org> <4C1C6D80.3000308@gentoo.org> <20100619185906.72367d63@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20100619185906.72367d63@snowcone> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 49b91160-9c5e-4c0c-bd56-f3321c717316 X-Archives-Hash: 734ee9207b61dfa33f678a17b7daf487 On 06/19/10 19:59, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> This is a point that deserves more consideration. One of the top >> reasons (as witnessed in forum discussions) > > Unfortunately, that's selecting a rather biased audience. The success > of a forum depends upon the number of active posters it has. The number > of active posters it has depends upon how many people need to post > there to get answers to questions, and how many wrong answers have to > be given before the right answer comes up. Thus, by selecting from the > forums, you're picking an audience that likes talking endlessly about > communities, not one that likes to answer a question once, correctly, > and then change things so the question doesn't need to be answered > again. This may apply to easy and/or 99%-technical problems with a dictator around. That's not what we have here. It's two black-and-white for my taste, too. >> Does Gentoo really prefer to keep more sensitive people out instead >> of effectively getting rid of repeat offenders? > > All bringing more sensitive people in does is cripples the > distribution's ability to delivery any technical improvements, Looking at it the other way around: with more sensitive people around, collaboration would work better potentially leading to less loss of time and energy and therefore quicker arrival of improvements. >> Think about it. What kind of people would you rather have in Gentoo? > > Personally, I'd like to see Gentoo start having the kinds of people who > deliver a better product, not the kinds of people who worry that using > a gender-ambiguous cow as a logo might be offensive. I don't consider that comment respectful. Sebastian