From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ0hz-00061d-Cr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:15:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34DE9E06DF; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A9BE064C for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (e179003172.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.3.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588031B405C for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1CED28.5020606@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:15:36 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> <4C1C2A90.1020603@gentoo.org> <4C1C4B6A.5000306@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1C4B6A.5000306@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fdd1be67-d17c-44ae-9991-37e8af9294e0 X-Archives-Hash: bc6417c91d8dca50c4f4266f567ff381 Jeremy, On 06/19/10 06:45, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On 06/18/2010 09:25 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > >> In #gentoo-infra > > #gentoo-infra is a private channel and you don't have to be in there. No > public community members/users are in there. The "tone" can be anything > that is acceptable to the normal inhabitants of said channel. #gentoo-infra is a channel on infra matters. The fact that it's developers only doesn't make it a private channel in a sense of "tone doesn't matter". > I *strongly* feel that > instead of threads like this, people can, and should be, leading by > example and recruiting people that show similar feelings. Leading by example doesn't work with tone. Being the politest one in group of people insulting each other will not make them change tone. > As Patrick > said[2], back to bug fixing and using time wisely. Fixing bugs addresses the technical layer. Again, technical is not our problem: non-technical is. Best, Sebastian