From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OPpn5-0002la-Fa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:36:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15DC8E0850; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8CBE0565 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.3.10] (bl3-202-82.dsl.telepac.pt [213.13.202.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32951B4034 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1C491A.5030906@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:35:38 +0200 From: Angelo Arrifano Organization: Gentoo Linux Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> <4C1C2A90.1020603@gentoo.org> <4C1C3768.1070008@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1C3768.1070008@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7edd79f9-dad9-417d-a75c-4674216de8b1 X-Archives-Hash: 08e7d5d4dde02fcce6643620e65df2cd On 19-06-2010 05:20, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On 19-06-2010 02:25, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> Hello. > >> As some people seem to be interested in examples of out of the line tone >> in Gentoo I feel like sharing an example just happened a few minutes ago: > >> In #gentoo-infra people are talking about banging each others moms >> right now. I was told this is normal in there. As I mentioned it's >> not funny at all I was told that it's not funny to _me_ and that I >> don't have to hang around there if I don't like it. > >> Now that's tone in Gentoo. Brilliant. > > Sebastian, > > you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular > private room with tone between members of the global community in public > mediums. I corroborate Jorge, I usually (or used to when there was time) hang there and #gentoo-infra is like a big family. While I agree there is sometimes a certain tone in gentoo, #gentoo-infra is for sure *not* an example. - Angelo > You're also missing an important point that some channels have their own > environment and so one should start by understanding it. Furthermore, > pushing for change and or imposing one's view on an established channel > is not a "nice" way to deal with the residents of that channel. > Another thing you've just done and should be aware of, is that you chose > to air into the public private conservations. When any Gentoo developer > decides to reveal a private discussion in the core ml or some other > private medium into the general public without the other parties > knowledge and or consent, that developer is abusing the other members' > "trust". > > You have shown to be very attached to this topic, so much so that you've > just blown this completely out of proportion. There was no "foul play" > intended in that conservation nor was there any abusive tone between the > involved parties. It may have sounded that way to you, but there was no > doubt for the involved parties. > Please consider that some of the developers in this distribution have > known each other for years and have their own communication code and > style. Don't be too quick judging the other people and as others have > said in this thread, assume others to have the best possible intention > in their messages, until proven otherwise. > >> Good night. > > Good night. > >> Sebastian > >