From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OPGam-00058n-8S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:01:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78DA9E088B; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDA3E086A for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (e179011167.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.11.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983411B4175 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1A38AB.2080907@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:00:59 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel References: <4C196595.20600@gentoo.org> <4C19D43C.6080207@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C19D43C.6080207@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 9b3b02d4-3655-4263-ab3a-4806ecb4f185 X-Archives-Hash: 7fde6c40a45993e53c202d2cdc03245d Petteri, On 06/17/10 09:52, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > Wrong mailing list. This thread belongs to gentoo-project. that's what I am referring to with "tone in Gentoo". I want the other 80% of you on the council. In my opinion the DevRel topic is too important to hide it on a mailing list with a fraction of subscribers. I wrote here on purpose. Among the very first things a Gentoo dev learns is that the gentoo-project mailing list is a list for topics no one really cares abou= t. If you ask me we should resolve that list and merge it into gentoo-dev. It's note a pure approach, but it could work better. > I also find > it weird that you didn't consult the devrel alias before starting this > thread In my eyes these issues are something that the whole Gentoo project needs to know about and to decide upon, not DevRel itself. Especially discussing to replace the team of conflict resolvers with a group of elected people isn't something I expect to work well on an inner discussion with DevRel. My latest discussion with DevRel (and it's ending) may have added to it. Best, Sebastian