From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OP2kl-0004pm-Mk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:14:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D2D4E0802; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7043E07E1 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (bl9-37-150.dsl.telepac.pt [85.242.37.150]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A251B404F for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C1968D8.9040309@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:14:16 +0000 From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100411 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 749fa6d3-13fc-41ee-9894-71df1b11a639 X-Archives-Hash: f23a09843e3cd470ea661b135cbd8858 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16-06-2010 05:03, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> Could it be we expect perfection from each other instead seeking to >> understand and complement each other? What can we do to make Gentoo a >> friendlier community? > > I haven't seen the crazy crap on the lists that was present in > 2007-2008 so I'm actually fairly happy with the current style. I'd > love to throw around more compliments but I tend to compliment people > by using their software and sending them patches...or making fun of > them on IRC, either way. Sebastian, I understand your concern, but as Alec puts it, we have gone a long way since the 2007-2008 low regarding this type of behaviour. I'm not advocating that communication in Gentoo mediums has become perfect, but I don't see all the rudeness and lack of respect and empathy that you see, not in a global manner. There are a few cases where people could and should improve their behaviour, but let's not forget we're a technical community and so it's imho an illusion to expect us to have a "hugs and kisses" tone. But yes, everyone participating in Gentoo mediums should strive to be courteous, respectful and promote debates on ideas. >> Thanks for your interest, >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml >> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml >> [3] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/philosophy.xml >> >> > - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMGWjYAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPNjcP/08Amjt1n2cAL4cxEY6/gyer QUrITGY/ZKy9RrPxHd/wxzJ6OBot/nk1oCnwwA/T1HVdIabNoZHSDAQrEwhaNiKO cA5hL/z2IeG0L8NTXjqphc2hFA0rdmkheWEuJ9vFwDf/9lMuOoYtiKOh9uvGOC3V 9d5Df+1/SpMd9/xKRj0G8ed6iLoR2qM+uhBB11MYJtdVDnD/I3E3gZlp8YXk6c/k wg11JbTVWzGySOSU4Qqx8kdEQFM82D6Wee+sw8MOb208Ol7MfU3mILguvenrW9Tt smfcxYym8Ohqtn9571C4RE1AA990DH+gCLQQ6oGh67kprpxF+/hXD0qHz3FOXPP9 ep7SSAGqyHlRa6cAZQRjA0FBXx/8m1zkKqyeQXwm+OCPemyJd9McL2nFazC01EAh JVEIjXof1F58i7Z2b8hIIOVGSuLRiBYJgAdfMmo8nT+eoPlu6iIxY5Jny/QCY6Q/ 8QrYEhr1JyXkzVSqszHwHXMdVCHyySYVCprgux7T1HcKqL4zLz7hmcjFT6wvHizH r8aPWWnmegn1nyIIznGOpIsOgcmo0dlrsBnjojdFPFZMLjOl8C83561nNWNTracF xOAsVat05L+GjY4c8tD+cEPKMKKqvcX7GYmuXIGlm+5HtsVXmf6XelUEGnuPFCCj neHxWtb7oD/hZUfw7buT =nKgk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----