From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OCvb4-0007Ca-53 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:10:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D623DE0932; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905A1E0923 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (pool-96-245-231-248.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [96.245.231.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FC8679F9 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4BED59D5.6060109@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:10:29 -0400 From: Richard Freeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100421 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Does anyone use the VERIFIED status in bugzilla? References: <4BED4602.6040700@gentoo.org> <4BED517A.4090709@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4BED517A.4090709@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4493817d-5a74-4409-b556-a318253ec563 X-Archives-Hash: c01fb56c9ff10cd85515cd8fd6b50087 On 05/14/2010 09:34 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > I'd like to see the whole thing go away. It's this one user I've pretty > much ever seen using it. And he's using it to change "RESOLVED" status > to "VERIFIED" on e.g. removal bugs, stabilization bugs, keywording bugs... I think that VERIFIED could have a place in a serious quality management system that closes the loop on every change. If we had a test branch and a release branch the VERIFIED might be the glue that moves patches from one to the other. However, we don't have anything like this in place right now, and so this is really just spam. Having the extra state does no good without all the processes that go with it. Would Gentoo have a higher level of quality if we did some CMM-5 practices like these? Absolutely! Would it struggle to keep up with Debian Stable? Absolutely! I don't think we really have the resources to pull off something like this. As it is we struggle with the current ~arch/arch system. I'd get rid of it...