From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O0kuk-0003a0-0i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:20:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 931A9E06D8; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A42E0831 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (bl12-233-209.dsl.telepac.pt [85.245.233.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB26A1B4220; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4BC115B1.9050907@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:20:01 +0000 From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100327 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org CC: Gentoo Recuiters , Gentoo Userrel Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead? References: <201004101609.59436.endymion+gentoo@thetys-retz.net> In-Reply-To: <201004101609.59436.endymion+gentoo@thetys-retz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3fc88093-09be-426a-a3e1-ddb6f842d63e X-Archives-Hash: 2b473fcce97c2edee0a17af6a9a17059 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Allo. On 10-04-2010 14:09, Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote: > Le samedi 10 avril 2010 15:53:48, Petteri R=C3=A4ty a =C3=A9crit : >> As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take >> action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to a= ct >> as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to >> whatever I see worthy for Gentoo as whole like the web page redesign. >> Basically you tell me how many hours you have and I'll give you stuff = to >> work on. It might not be glorious at times like cleaning up a piece of >> documentation but why not spend an hour a week on something that >> benefits the project? If people are interested, I'll work out the deta= ils. >> > Since I'm quite new to this list, I'll start by a quick presentation. >=20 > I'm a french math teacher who loves computer science and Free Software.= I've=20 > discovered Gentoo circa 2004 at school and since then it perfectly matc= hes my=20 > needs and way of thinking. >=20 > I'm writing some personal ebuilds that I've never took time to clean up= and=20 > upload to sunrise since it works for me. You may find a sympa ebuild at= my=20 > personal repo[1] >=20 > I'm not sure I've enough time to involve myself as a Gentoo developer (= even if=20 > a maintain my own sympa ebuild and other) but I want to help Gentoo pro= ject. >=20 > I could easily donate some time, but I don't know where to begin, so I'= m glad=20 > of your offer to direct me to something useful. I'm sending you an email directly (and cc'ing Recruiters and User Relations) as I want to try to get some accomplishment from all the buzz in our mailing lists. In case you want to know more about the recruitment process, I'm posting below our (recruiters) default reply to such inquiries. If you suspect or conclude that you don't have the time and or motivation to become a Gentoo Developer, I'd still like very much to see how we can help you contribute to Gentoo in a way that his rewarding to you and that will be of help to the whole community. To that effect, are there any particular areas in Gentoo that you would like to contribute to or do you have particular skills that you think could be of use to Gentoo? What communication channels are you willing and or capable to use? I'll do my best to try find the relevant teams on Gentoo and get you in touch with their developers. > Cheers >=20 > [1] : http://redmine.thetys-retz.net/projects/overlay >=20 > P.S. Sorry, this web page is still in French as my signature No problem. I can read French and we do have some French speaking developers. I will try to save you from my "murdering" of the language though ;-) and will reply in English or let one of the others reply in French. Please feel free to email me directly, poke me on the Freenode or OFTC IRC networks (my nick is jmbsvicetto) as well as emailing the recruiters or userrel alias for any further requests, questions or comments. We'd also like to hear any suggestions you may have. - ------------ Recruiters default email ------------ We are very actively looking for interested people. You can start contributing right now if you want. Two good ways to start are proposing solutions for bugs [1] and contributing to an overlay [2] like Sunrise for example [3]. There is more information on how to get involved with overlay development at [4]. You may also want to have a look at the staffing needs page [5]. If you have written ebuilds, feel free to submit them to bugzilla [1] or sunrise [3]. This way we can all see them and help you make them better. Also, you never know, some developer may like what you did and commit it to the main tree. Note that we're all very busy so we may not react to your bugs, but that should not prevent you from filing them. Bugzilla is also used for documenting work that needs to be done and following up on it, so if the bugs sit there even if nobody reacts it's already useful. You will need to read the Gentoo Documentation Resources [6], and more specifically the Gentoo Developer Handbook [7] and the Gentoo Development Guide [8]. Another way to help, especially for non-technical projects, is to contact people directly [9]. Be aware that they can be away though, so be patient, try others on the same project, and finally get back to us in case you fail to reach anybody. You may also want to look at what mailing lists are of interest to you [10] and browse through the archives [11] to learn what is going on. Training new developers takes a lot of time and effort so we don't recruit as much as we would like and need. Before you can enter the recruiting process though, you'll need to show what you can do. We do this for many reasons but mainly because it shows your commitment to Gentoo (since training takes so much time we favor people who we know will stay), it shows what your interests are (you'll need to find a mentor with the same interests to start your training) and it tells us how much and what kind of training you need. So, start filing and more importantly fixing bugs, submit ebuilds, be active on our irc channels and mailing lists, and at some point you'll get noticed. When a developer notices you, (s)he may ask you to join an arch testing team, an herd or offer to mentor you. When you think your work is significant enough and you find out that nobody notices you when they should be, feel free to contact us again and we'll try and arrange the situation. Are there any particular areas that interest you? Have you tried to join any project's irc channels[12]? Sometimes the best way to get a mentor is through direct contact with devs - be it through bugzilla, mls or irc. Do not hesitate to contact recruiters in the future in case you need more information. [1] - http://bugs.gentoo.org/ [2] - http://overlays.gentoo.org/ [3] - http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/ [4] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml#doc_chap3 [5] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/ [6] - http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=3Dgentoodev [7] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml [8] - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ [9] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/index.xml?showlevel=3D2 [10] - http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml [11] - http://archives.gentoo.org/ [12] - http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/irc.xml - --=20 Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLwRWxAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEP7BIQAKXiEcLQB1L5iGAi/xUj+rK6 ptWRWwrMY5HZezrGn80zjznuIYpgx2r0PsUtR2kTe6Ptffyhf/EYbU3JngzWYWUh VEoSOngo/NMMW4/T/W8XD/UPdTYRSzJ7y2QWl8RGnkENcyHTZ4VSX7aSC8CRNU2y +6u4lvXYktTX3CJAw/MsxrEYdCrOxdXkuGjhBF6IYfAlQ5YdrMLSJc/hXfJD5xSS 7BPg/kQ/XpiUFnHgQz6SvJCb0b3gZmCKFLOstIiXlLJI2w6kg6QQLBDcdGgH5ZGd NdNfLk7Nh2TV1Z0wqo7SOJjbM/A+H0Lezw3RB5g1Fo8W3mI9e3VAtttsdWa2zHvm VZrrcn1YK4bMpv4jO8mibjEfRt7f9TNZ4D1L00OirgQO/QGb97AYmduSgx7Oga6r vUkjnurl0sjrUe1A/0qhT2WCCy2DNW1mdHuUpucU4IWDY82rKDuhmJDSclhihNy/ 0sSQaLkg4l+bTyGh7sviMC8Qlk9x4VUVpuw3AmpotPgnIZ51cytMY+8mwheSLKkU CIODWWXwXMSuqFUYdD5lddYxHxB1Mz6ZW9rTpBZSODTPxpajYAmwFhBI0Zvgv4iw elkiQZTw5604F5Cjm7BUXCDMn9TzwHF4g0EANni6VqE7Z8gL+DbXa+P/Wg2Ke6ze wNgSILhzZUt9syYAbRjh =3DY+ej -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----