From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NyoJU-00084d-Pr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:34:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BE39E0B16; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8DBE09E3 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (pool-96-245-231-248.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [96.245.231.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAB81B40DB for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4BBA02D5.20302@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:33:41 -0400 From: Richard Freeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100306 Thunderbird/3.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? References: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> <4BB70E5C.8040405@gentoo.org> <1270289959.18734.19.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> <4BB727A1.4000402@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3475323c-77bc-4cc6-a51a-2046df22b24a X-Archives-Hash: 95f1b4174952a70cfa5b206a931f9bf3 On 04/04/2010 02:09 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > > All ideas regarding improving recruitment are welcome, thanks. However > if, during your review, you were not given the impression that your > maturity and other social skills were being assessed then you were > being blissfully naive. :o) That actually wasn't what I was trying to convey (guess I need to work on those communications skills :) ). I did recognize that you were looking to assess this, and that you felt that this was of critical importance. What I was getting at is trying to identify what aspects of the whole recruitment process added the most value and which added the least, and adjusting accordingly. I think that assessing attitude and maturity, and providing the tools and education needed are the most critical aspects of recruitment. That's why I'm all for changing the approach to quizzes - from my experience it wasn't the quizzes themselves that really added the most value for me. The interaction that they triggered and getting me to consider some of the more critical issues that come up in ebuild maintenance added far more value than getting every detail of the answers 100% correct. The quizzes are just a tool - not the ultimate validators of ability. Let's use every tool at our disposal in the best way possible. Rich