From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-40448-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Ny8Wl-000261-Rs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:57:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF6EE0B1C; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25048E0439 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so160202bwz.26 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1B/0KjYV2JeVvyq0pmAAwzt8JR8Qu/Om1xndNNZM7CI=; b=OdbNPz9F4AayO/geJimikFHw1TUyKuYhM9ZeLD0CGFaq9WIPZfhx2Y7Ud0cgHR605f 5BGe4bNzq0VK0Kzwf1Y5V/LobIlVZpM9+47ogEodJsNUUX8Bj+foCa9WmJMXYzbCsCMG OgY56U7s8IvwuWN7II0gfZq49AFzEysqLXpkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WSPIsvg1Od8DotR4PzxqyKpbYJD9CfuaUoCWcUCILadkcvu3EpW+fNHYyPDcwtvZXt hpWcQZbsDBRt6eW2bhncyMtdlfIlArJIKaaiyBw3raioznJbg1nmZHfjOat8atKW0/yg J6CbT8DymPVMOUaJCFPm5daF1G3i9q0SYB0dI= Received: by 10.204.74.77 with SMTP id t13mr4636439bkj.7.1270321013235; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.18] ([95.147.53.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm89473418bkc.21.2010.04.03.11.56.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BB78F75.50100@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:56:53 +0100 From: George Prowse <george.prowse@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki References: <s2re117dbb91004030619ka3a39c44wf0a29437f5b050c5@mail.gmail.com> <h2w2becdd071004030640k6b15a474ze763288d681e67a1@mail.gmail.com> <4BB77D99.3090105@allenjb.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BB77D99.3090105@allenjb.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2c1e41d5-fae5-4ba6-a223-96524ce01f2f X-Archives-Hash: a1a7a3701905cae29050529c00200316 On 03/04/2010 18:40, AllenJB wrote: > On 03/04/10 14:40, Dror Levin wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot<yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> 2 - maintainers >>> =============== >>> >>> Who is volunteering for maintaining the wiki? We need editors and >>> moderators, people who look out for quality control and take care of >>> spam removal. So let's get together a team. I'm sure if we ask on the >>> forums we'll get some users interested as well. >> I volunteer. Spam shouldn't be that much of an issue if editing is >> restricted to registered users, but it is a good idea to have a team >> of moderators similar to the one that exists for the forums (of course >> users can take part of it as well as developers). >> > Most of the spam on gentoo-wiki.com comes from registered accounts. > Requiring registration does not stop most wiki spam. Very little of the > spam comes in from unregistered editors. > > > On gentoo-wiki.com we currently use a combination of anti-spam tools, > which seems to work best. The main 2, from a day-to-day administration > view are the url blacklist and manual removal of spam and associated > accounts. > > You could require email authentication first, but I believe this is > unlikely to reduce spam - creating a setup that automatically deals with > account verification emails is trivial and throwaway accounts are too > easy to get hold of. > > In addition I believe it would reduce the amount of positive > contribution more than it reduces spam - I believe people often want to > make quick, small corrections / additions and telling them to "come back > later" is going to be the same as telling them "go away". > > I would highly recommend using MediaWiki as, at least from my > experience, it's the most prevalent of the wiki setups available. While > this may bring some disadvantages (number of spam attempts (tho I'm > nottotally convinced you'll get less than any other web form out there), > etc), it also brings the advantages of being well developed with a wide > variety of plugins, lots of wiki syntax guides / tutorials you can point > users to and a wide userbase with existing knowledge of the syntax. > > AllenJB > Does mediawiki have captcha ability?