From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NsyBm-0005JB-Nz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:54:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1180EE078B; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8845E076D for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.22.2] (ip68-4-152-120.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.152.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3171B4019 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4BA4C567.9010006@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:53:59 -0700 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100315 Thunderbird/3.0.3 ThunderBrowse/3.2.6.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it References: <4BA27CE2.7080005@gentoo.org> <20100318192424.GH13380@gentoo.org> <20100318215331.59ad6253@notorcomp.notorgroup.local> <20100319081207.22282ba9@snowmobile> <4BA33BC4.10502@gmail.com> <20100319085751.1c7f5dca@snowmobile> <4BA34293.1040302@gmail.com> <20100319093033.16437529@snowmobile> <4BA34E5C.7040800@gmail.com> <4BA49BD6.7010507@jmhengen.net> In-Reply-To: <4BA49BD6.7010507@jmhengen.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2378d92e-e297-4a35-83e8-83d4cda748b1 X-Archives-Hash: 2414f13c1b5fd05e5bece38dff5a49bf On 03/20/2010 02:56 AM, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: > Duncan wrote: >> ... > > ++ - I can only add the saying "With freedom comes great responsibility.". > > Maybe the python herd could maintain a little status page which covers > informations like: > - Estimated python 3 compatibility in respect to the packages in the > main tree. That would be easy enough to generate from dependencies. Surely there are some dependencies that need to be updated, but that shouldn't be much work. For example, I've already updated the cracklib and libxml2 deps to indicate lack of python3 support. > - Recommendations if installing makes sense or not (e.g. package X gains > feature Y with python 3). > - Recommendations if setting python 3 as system engine makes already > sense or not. > This way gentoo can give its users the tools needed to make a good > decision if python 3 makes sense on his system. For me as a user I need > more time to study if an action makes sense than implementing said > action (e.g. locally masking python 3 - It would not be the first time > masking a package). If one isn't into python, it gets even more complicated. I would advise people to go ahead and install it as long as they can spare a little disk space and cpu time. Anybody who is tight on those resources should feel free to mask it (and the dependency resolver will certainly notify you if this is not feasible in your case). Honestly, I don't see a need for lots of data analysis here, but maybe some people just like that kind of thing. -- Thanks, Zac