From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NsWRM-0007FZ-MP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:16:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA1E7E0B7E; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f177.google.com (mail-yx0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141AEE0ACA for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe7 with SMTP id 7so1547254yxe.32 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:15:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rtbSTNaP4XNQfIdQmPki+goey9yrhxevh7aKul60Zk8=; b=T6XZChSoVf4FuiZu4Oa4DKDs0Q2gNloEoCzZDPeTc5MqQUI1LIBcckvmb2eriDP/aI 1lApppqg9/g/d4AkNlFvh0OHj2U0mpoczUiDB9AVE7laaiDNnvYl1zowIoeOM4ureV46 WbjbHWxwyotC3MWoRaMhRlx7mxNwGwbRec6EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VBfBFRwEYSj0GK28nLChwQrFDQ9k43EtlKwKe1sTXSJRRalYmt7fhTctlra081Bh6i A55Ah05xk8o9ZoM3+geuTsW2Rxn6TagD50IV0fWE/5qcgKCcgpl31AX0+IqYQmfFDFTP 2RdbLJTRts2Tu6Zhuys3zT3Xrn/YVl3mJ7ojY= Received: by 10.100.28.19 with SMTP id b19mr6284068anb.75.1268982953559; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-94-43.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.94.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm544311gxk.8.2010.03.19.00.15.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BA324A5.1080203@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:15:49 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100304 Gentoo/2.0.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it References: <4BA27CE2.7080005@gentoo.org> <20100318192424.GH13380@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c33b6a2a-3de9-4963-a7f7-9b76dfd17422 X-Archives-Hash: 54cec0a46ab31657f94b8c21e3875b4e Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> On 18 March 2010 20:24, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> >>> On 18-03-2010 20:20:02 +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> >>>> There are 2 ways to fix this issue: >>>> >>>> -fix the dependency string for those packages (including the lines in distutils.eclass) >>>> >>>> or (since Arfrever claims current portage behaviour is wrong) >>>> -change portage behaviour to be satisfied with a python slot and to not require other slots. >>>> >>> Since the last option will take time in any case, I guess the first >>> option is the best to achieve the desired goal: make sure Python 3 stays >>> as far away as possible from any system that doesn't need it. >>> >> And the best way to do that is to package.mask it. >> > The maintainer has chosen not to mask it in gentoo-x86, which means > users are empowered to mask it locally and everyone who is complaining > about getting python3 installed on their system should mask it > locally. This is how users work around other defaults in the tree > they don't agree with (USE flags, KEYWORDS, etc.) I don't get why > this is a big deal at all or why people are unable to solve this > themselves. > > >> Cheers, >> -- >> Ben de Groot >> Gentoo Linux Qt project lead developer >> >> >> I think this is because people that use Gentoo do so because it doesn't install things they don't need. Why install a package that is used by no other package? It's pointless. I would also add, if it gets installed and is used by no other package, --depclean should remove it. Putting it in package.mask locally is sort of silly in my opinion. There will come a day, maybe way off in the future, that something will need it. Then you have to edit the file again so portage can install it. This just seems to be adding either more work or unneeded packages. This is a users $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-)