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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:59:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B927BDC.50807@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B92497E.30302@gentoo.org>

On 03/06/2010 04:24 AM, Richard Freeman wrote:
> On 03/05/2010 08:06 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> On 5 March 2010 04:18, Graham Murray<graham@gmurray.org.uk>  wrote:
>>> 3.  Include one or both of the packages in the stage tarball.
>> None of the packages involved (gtk+, cups and poppler) is in any
>> shape or form essential, so you will have a very hard time convincing
>> people that this is the best solution.
> 
> I tend to agree, but do consider this:
> 
> 1.  We wouldn't need to put all the packages in the dep list up to these
> packages in the tarball - you could just put one package in the tarball
> so that when emerge gets to this point it won't die.
> 
> 2.  You don't need to put that package in @system, so the first time the
> user cleans out their install it will be removed.  For server users it
> will start out there but will eventually go away.
> 
> It does increase the size of the tarball, which is of course
> undesirable.  We might also need to modify the build scripts since I'm
> guessing those scripts look at @system to figure out what belongs in the
> tarball and these packages don't need to be there.
> 
> I do agree that it isn't really an ideal solution, and probably not the
> first thing we should try...

Another possible solution would be distribute binary packages to
users via PORTAGE_BINHOST. The user can simply set something like
PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86"
in /etc/make.conf. Since DEPEND is ignored for binary packages, and
circular RDEPEND doesn't block installation, the circular
dependencies won't necessarily be an problem. The emerge --pretend
output shows that emerge will go ahead and install those packages
despite the circular RDEPEND:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[binary  N    ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r2  USE="X acl avahi dbus
gnutls java jpeg ldap pam perl php png ppds python samba slp ssl
tiff -kerberos -static -xinetd -zeroconf" LINGUAS="en -de -es -et
-fr -he -id -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW"  [0]


[binary  N    ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.18.6  USE="cups jpeg test tiff
xinerama (-aqua) -debug -doc -jpeg2k -vim-syntax"  [0]

[binary  N    ] dev-python/pygtk-2.16.0-r1  USE="doc examples test"
 [0]

[binary  N    ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.17  USE="bzip2 gtk python
-doc -gnome -thumbnail"  [0]

[binary  N    ] app-text/poppler-0.12.4  USE="abiword cairo jpeg
lcms png qt4 utils xpdf-headers -cjk -debug -doc -exceptions
-jpeg2k"  [0]
-- 
Thanks,
Zac



  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-06 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 21:24 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps Ben de Groot
2010-03-01 21:40 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-03 18:45   ` Mart Raudsepp
2010-03-03 18:54     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-03-03 22:02       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-03 21:51     ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-03 23:18       ` Nathan Zachary
2010-03-04  1:53         ` Dale
2010-03-04  1:57           ` Nathan Zachary
2010-03-04  2:17             ` Dale
2010-03-04  2:24               ` Nathan Zachary
2010-03-04  2:41                 ` Dale
2010-03-04  3:07                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-04  3:19                     ` Dale
2010-03-04 12:30                       ` Markus Oehme
2010-03-05 16:12               ` Roy Bamford
2010-03-05 18:03                 ` Dawid Węgliński
2010-03-05 18:38                   ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-05 20:11                     ` Dale
2010-03-06 18:33                   ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-03-04  6:56       ` Dawid Węgliński
2010-03-04  7:08         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-04  7:27           ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-04 12:24             ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 12:28           ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 17:04             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-04 17:23               ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-04 17:53                 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 23:56                   ` Vincent Launchbury
2010-03-05  0:07                     ` Dale
2010-03-05  0:32                       ` Brian Harring
2010-03-07  5:59                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-03-04 20:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Dale
2010-03-04 21:46               ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-04 22:11                 ` Dale
2010-03-04 22:17               ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 22:34                 ` Dale
2010-03-04 23:03                   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 23:27                     ` Dale
2010-03-04 23:39                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05  0:00                         ` Dale
2010-03-05  1:57                           ` Patrick Nagel
2010-03-05  2:37                             ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-05  3:02                               ` Dale
2010-03-05  3:18                               ` Graham Murray
2010-03-05  4:19                                 ` Dale
2010-03-05  4:57                                   ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-05 13:06                                 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-06 12:24                                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-06 15:59                                     ` Zac Medico [this message]
2010-03-05  2:53                             ` Dale
2010-03-04 11:50         ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-04 17:02           ` Mart Raudsepp
2010-03-04 14:01     ` Luca Barbato
2010-03-01 21:53 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-01 22:06 ` Samuli Suominen
2010-03-02  2:13   ` Sylvain Alain
2010-03-01 22:09 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-03-02  5:53   ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-02  7:29     ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-02  7:55 ` Markos Chandras
2010-03-05 20:51 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-03-05 21:06   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-06  9:11     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-03-06 11:32       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-06 17:05         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-03-06 17:22           ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-04-07 22:37             ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-04-07 22:43           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-04-07 22:58             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-04-07 23:44               ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-03-06  9:17     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-04-07 23:13       ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-04-07 23:31         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-03-06 10:26     ` Pacho Ramos
2010-04-07 23:14     ` Enrico Weigelt

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