From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnVTk-0004R5-Qq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:14:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A909AE0E85; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from petteriraty.eu (host.petteriraty.eu [188.40.80.83]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99124E0E05 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.229] (qob5.kyla.fi [82.130.46.229]) by petteriraty.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9FA442F27B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B90E724.8040504@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:12:36 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fi; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090916 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2 References: <201003021927.18379.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <4B8E0747.4050008@gentoo.org> <20100303015253.7930de6f@gentoo.org> <4B8E2229.3010408@gentoo.org> <20100303124741.53f4b82c@snowcone> <4B8E8438.9000405@gentoo.org> <1267782863.8344.9.camel@lillen> In-Reply-To: <1267782863.8344.9.camel@lillen> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: id=B8E4ECF0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAC7C3B9A8D3CAEDC5E4F1BDF" X-Archives-Salt: 1991f806-29eb-4d2b-ab76-5dd7b7b56c64 X-Archives-Hash: 0756d5a18283745ce51a18a1cee0035c This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAC7C3B9A8D3CAEDC5E4F1BDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/05/2010 11:54 AM, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: >=20 > I have start to question why should we care about overlays more then th= e > actual portage tree? My comments do not imply caring more about overlays than the actual portage tree. >=20 > Take for example the kernel or Xorg. > They give themselves a period of time to clean up their own code (i.e. > kernel-modules, xorg-drivers) and then they release it as stable and > tell users/distributors to upgrade. > They do not wait for nVidia/AMD/other out-of-tree drivers/modules to > catch up. >=20 This doesn't match the situation in question. This more closely matches changing for example libX11 ABI. > Now if we say we have someone managing an overlay, and this person do > miss this warning/die for half an year, then I would say they have nott= > done their homework and they are on their own. I do not see why we > should wait unreasonable long periods of time because there may be > someone broken somewhere. >=20 Because there is so little benefit from removing old functions. What is so bad about having them grouped at the bottom of the file inside a deprecated section? Regards, Petteri --------------enigAC7C3B9A8D3CAEDC5E4F1BDF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJLkOcnAAoJEPeUsk245OzwX9EP/i+M2COG14eorSoX2jntgP/R DUnGoBHHcWdCbXyYuSKv8aizIT0V6k4ftOearOYAIrgtCYyXwQl5UpP4ko4S2G5t lKoSbn/3GDgkP8QfhpT3vWdVIHqWU00wvVO8vk0a447/MiC7dhjXDmBtysqqxaAe xO5LJD5vMzdOHi/cSjk+vIa3/rNFhrwmmdbmJlNnB79CcZppU7KcW8DrZV8VuTIO 04CpweAmVB5fNMr/lFkl95xHKaraMRQ5mfKZU3ZQGE4kfzy0GYnfC3pPu4+LSX0S 2DVDqsbxJZ8aeD2psQGpHPY9x79L/mAVRgmUjf/s99gKbJHgqWx/GWkM4uzHuusB 79eMFF9kvvGbVXJR/DrRvNcNxrL4TZlOaUEOtMpSV5x8chXu429lX57t7dWKbL8n xmT7saxGSODChFHNnX+IUS6eTDQap+KtOAx1E2LNnjD3uu9Y67+sKFQGOrmNyNTT ZNsmxV7mTiwV15BsXG1TyMAo1HkndHThqJaSUSA26zvJFfP7YqojlP5CLJ2y9ml0 W676jRdBwCPJwG2eSMDMMOcOG+yHcu6zMR1nmSVjBYxHY++U8nTXuuX/S+6kFLxu ZKkebvy6M/cI9tzDttNtEjnygU1uNeGM/Z84GQreVtmeqeS6Uv+V4pSwu7ztk4/1 lV4ZghUZZd92d8XloYo6 =v0JA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAC7C3B9A8D3CAEDC5E4F1BDF--