From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnP0U-0004Xi-CF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:19:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 628F4E0E8D; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829F4E0D4D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19so1452741gwj.40 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:19:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OtOREUoKOte59OO+mZlkn/3GEyNA6NIZpgrvaeRQhKQ=; b=sro0qf0XjCHZ7ftOiFv9tk2RrajcA+0wvbbnWs1j3BRjsIrfgJsCjeYdEUpya6cWz/ R7ImMhxUSPdx4//IhQ/M/DjBdz0SHeNYdhWOp0Bw7A+5SgGR3M9bNk91x+6VzJrtBHEk YUDEuSyntNRveCucSDH+j10nEBjQMeqYVu3gI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IUpoD4L6jxybRF4f1El8PqPp7BcrhU09tt7o6zzwUZESEaMEx1ewyx7axEY49tbWvN TTsN8fxYzM+qu14y62+MmwvxUpPwCAv+C9rE2u+xcULYN9I6JtG4a9vtEi+h8ae+KaEx VxpzuXm1hSQ2aAvFbU0no6kpItgYqBlwRuHMw= Received: by 10.90.204.3 with SMTP id b3mr698470agg.80.1267762747821; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (adsl-0-94-66.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.94.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm526940gxk.12.2010.03.04.20.19.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:19:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B908639.3080802@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:19:05 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100304 Gentoo/2.0.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps References: <4B9049A3.5020805@gmail.com> <201003050957.22890.mail@patrick-nagel.net> <4B906E7D.7010003@gentoo.org> <877hprpibg.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <877hprpibg.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fdf1473b-b25b-4066-b121-6a1b4dbb97c3 X-Archives-Hash: 8ed191329446a89278c68d356ea5955b chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > Richard Freeman writes: > > >> I think that is separate from the circular dependency issue. As long >> as we have an unresolved circular dependency I think cups should be >> off the list. However, I'd be the first to agree that this is a >> short-term solution. >> >> The problem is that we only have two long-term solutions so far: >> >> 1. A smarter package manager that can work through these dependencies >> automatically. >> >> 2. Splitting packages like poppler that have these issues. >> > Is there not a third, maybe obvious, solution to circular dependencies > on initial install? > > 3. Include one or both of the packages in the stage tarball. > > I'm not a dev but what else uses poppler or other packages that would be added? Also, this would affect server profiles. Last I checked, server, desktop or any other profile starts from the same tarball. It's a idea but would it be a good one? I don't know the answer to that question. Is this a Gentoo thing or is this caused by upstream? I only use Gentoo so maybe it affects other distros as well. Dale :-) :-)