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From: "Petteri Räty" <betelgeuse@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), 	python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and  distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:13:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8F5DAE.9040906@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100303153919.0f4744b4@gentoo.org>

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On 03/03/2010 11:39 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
>>
>> Also policies should be changed when they don't make sense any more as I
>> said in my first response but I am not sure if that's the case here.
> 
> The problem is I don't think this is actually a policy.  One of the first
> projects I did as a developer, while still under probation, was a complete
> rewrite, in-place, of an eclass.  Many functions were removed or renamed
> (done in an overlay of course, with a migration path). It was fully reviewed,
> on list, by senior devs at the time.  I was told by several people that if
> there were any exported pkg_post_rm or pkg_pre_rm functions, they couldn't be
> touched because of portage limitations (those limitations were removed ~3
> years ago now IIRC).  So I wonder if this isn't just a years-long game of
> Telephone where one rule passed down by word of mouth got over-generalized
> and sufficiently twisted as to apply to everything.
> 

You can mostly get away with deprecating eclass functions in a slowly
manner.

> Nor do I think it's a particularly useful policy that keeps deprecated
> interfaces around forever.  Careful removal with a long warning period
> shouldn't actually pose a problem.  I think Arfrever's plan is reasonable.
> 

If we decide allowing removal of functions, we should come up with a
common procedure like the eclass removal policy:
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/index.html

Regards,
Petteri



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-04  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-02 18:27 [gentoo-dev] Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-03  6:52 ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-03  7:52   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-03-03  8:47     ` Tomáš Chvátal
2010-03-03  9:23       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-03-03 11:09         ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-03 12:40           ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-03 15:55             ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-03 21:39               ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-04  7:13                 ` Petteri Räty [this message]
2010-03-04  7:39                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2010-03-04  7:55                     ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-04  9:43                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2010-03-05  3:19                         ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-03 12:47       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-03-03 15:08         ` Duncan
2010-03-03 15:46         ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05  9:54           ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-05 11:12             ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05 20:14               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-03-05 21:00                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-03-06  5:42                 ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05 18:40             ` Duncan
2010-03-05 19:16       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-03-03 14:02   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeremy Olexa

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