From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn1Pc-0001EV-AL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:07:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C78F7E0E1E; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E350E0E0E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw.thefreemanclan.net ([unknown] [96.245.54.140]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KYQ00FFFLZS25G4@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:07:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (rich.homedns.org [192.168.0.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw.thefreemanclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356F5175A21B for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:07:04 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4B8F23D7.9020901@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:07:03 -0500 From: Richard Freeman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100215 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps References: <4B8C3438.90909@gentoo.org> <1267641936.26170.5.camel@localhost> <4B8EEE42.80306@gentoo.org> <4B8F1289.8040705@gmail.com> <4B8F1389.9040609@gentoo.org> <4B8F182E.6080207@gmail.com> <4B8F19D2.1090703@gentoo.org> <4B8F1DD9.5010801@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <4B8F1DD9.5010801@gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: bb50f8c4-c54f-4449-84c3-6850492e2318 X-Archives-Hash: 883f331421bf8e1be37801420706370e On 03/03/2010 09:41 PM, Dale wrote: > So in the situation above, removing cups doesn't help any? The user > would still have to work around the dependency problem. Is there not a > better way to handle this? Agreed that there should be better ways of handling things. However, at the very least if somebody follows the instructions in the=20 Gentoo Handbook to the letter, they shouldn't end up staring at an error=20 message. A completely scripted install using any non-experimental=20 profile should "just work." So, removing the use flag should probably be done at least in the interim= . That said, I do agree that we need to try to avoid this circular=20 dependency in the first place. It is kind of silly that you can't even=20 do an emerge -u world right out of a stage3 using a fairly common set of=20 use flags and get a working system.