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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve
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> I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is
>
>>>> to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't
>>>> think cups should be part of the base profile, and as a result
>>>> cascading to the desktop profile. And a lot of people seem to
>>>> agree. Users can always enable that functionality when they
>>>> need it. It is not something that is necessary for running a
>>>> desktop system.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree that CUPS is not really necessary in the desktop profile, and
>>> especially in the base profile. Many systems run desktop
>>> environments without needing printing support. As we advance further
>>> toward a paperless computing experience, the need for printing
>>> support becomes even less. And, as it is incredibly simple to add
>>> print capabilities by placing the cups USE flag in /etc/make.conf,
>>> that choice should be left to the user.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nathan Zachary
>>>
>> One could argue the opposite as well. Adding -cups to make.conf is
>> just as easy.
>>
>> I'm one of those lowly users.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-) :-)
>>
>>
> I think that the point is that it is better to have it disabled by
> default so that new users do not run into these circular dependencies
> upon their first installation. They can then add cups to their
> make.conf and emerge -avuDN world to get full printing support.
>
> Just as a sidebar, there is not a "lowly user." Your input is greatly
> important in all matters regarding Gentoo as you are a member of the
> userbase. It's your operating system too! :)
>
> Regards,
> Nathan Zachary
>
>
Let just think of it this way. I have to reinstall say from a dead hard
drive. I have copies of my make.conf and world file. I install my new
drive, download the tarball and unpack it. I copy over make.conf and
world. Naturally cups will be enabled. Then I sync and start to
update. Isn't that circular dependency still going to be there? After
all, this is how I install Gentoo even if from scratch. I set my USE
line before I start to emerge or update.
It seems to me, in my situation, this would not solve much. Maybe I am
incorrect in that.
Dale
:-) :-)