From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn0Fv-0003av-J7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:53:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17E77E0BDE; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com (mail-yx0-f202.google.com [209.85.210.202]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCB9E0BC2 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so896130yxe.10 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yi0BZhRRk4wLnckn+oeGXzfoP+WhCG47+6fKhcSzD3U=; b=L4vbfEgUH5NgpNSgnXNQdjmXXgVm5VDE4aofdoRrm8A5s8C34+AhB60Q6CunMeN46O XbVx5tEe4xjI8kuAJcDFg01ipdJSd3V518S9E+M9dIXX4DxVAfMuEsHmxW7HQWVqWmGU +V4u3IgaFMVq9FREUxCq4kPWeSkNebsHaV8l0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lDC5EgYRtyx5hP6QvwpoIooc2y0m4o0lmpMiOygnRv2mzPvbXh+4RpqhJkIPFmgmYJ NPLmf5NC0ZMpMNRUgAZ3Fswjy/3yKxDwxR9vITk8ado+R5vHprgwt195Y09AB1Jpw9kG VKTbHexf2mvQqa4pHc87mJstXA/0NlbILGB6A= Received: by 10.101.179.34 with SMTP id g34mr61802anp.85.1267667596568; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-94-66.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.94.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm4355599gxk.15.2010.03.03.17.53.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8F1289.8040705@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:53:13 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100223 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps References: <4B8C3438.90909@gentoo.org> <1267641936.26170.5.camel@localhost> <4B8EEE42.80306@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4B8EEE42.80306@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6191d18c-d71d-426f-89f4-d652deb44dd9 X-Archives-Hash: 32892bac84382454615e25e9ba6cb241 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > On 03/03/10 15:51, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> >>> I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not >>> having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, >>> while others do, just because maintainers are lazy. >>> >> I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is >> to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't >> think cups should be part of the base profile, and as a result >> cascading to the desktop profile. And a lot of people seem to >> agree. Users can always enable that functionality when they >> need it. It is not something that is necessary for running a >> desktop system. >> >> Cheers, >> > I agree that CUPS is not really necessary in the desktop profile, and > especially in the base profile. Many systems run desktop environments > without needing printing support. As we advance further toward a > paperless computing experience, the need for printing support becomes > even less. And, as it is incredibly simple to add print capabilities > by placing the cups USE flag in /etc/make.conf, that choice should be > left to the user. > > Regards, > Nathan Zachary One could argue the opposite as well. Adding -cups to make.conf is just as easy. I'm one of those lowly users. Dale :-) :-)