From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPAq8-0001iM-Vb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:20:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90E6FE08E9 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.4]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0294E0602 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1292D4C807B for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:11:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [78.236.180.97]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235CB4C8029 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:11:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B386808.8070607@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:10:48 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Cardona?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo References: <4B3843E2.90800@doublecreations.com> In-Reply-To: <4B3843E2.90800@doublecreations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 8c44d0d4-b988-4a7a-b245-fce7cbfabe34 X-Archives-Hash: a5fc45ef1beb24401b2c0b08c7d84c04 Le 28/12/2009 06:36, Vincent Launchbury a =E9crit : > Hi, >=20 > I recently emailed the Gentoo PR team, voicing my concerns about the > amount of non-free software within Gentoo. I got an interesting respons= e > from Sebastian Pipping, who said that while Gentoo is all about choice, > including the choice to install non-free software, the project is > interested in making it easy for people to run a 100% free system, > should they choose that path. Gentoo - like the rest of Free and Open Source Software - isn't about choice, it's about empowering users. Gentoo gives you tools and documentation to do whatever you wish. It doesn't mean that we (Gentoo) _have_ to support it. With that out of the way, moving on to the rest of the mail. > 1) Not all of the licenses are completely accurate. For example, the > Linux kernels are listed as soley GPL-2, yet they contain blobs of > non-free firmware. Indeed, that's a very good point. And that's precisely why I was against ACCEPT_LICENSE to begin with. It's a good idea on paper, but it's just not feasible at a large scale (like portage) without a proper _team_ of devoted people sifting through code and license blobs to make it useful. I'm also pretty sure a couple lawyers would be needed as well. Unless people dedicate time and effort, ACCEPT_LICENSE is useless. [snip] The rest of your points are indeed all valid as well. I can only encourage you to either work with individual developers to get ebuilds fixed (USE=3Dbindist or whatever) or join our ranks to fix this yourself if you really want a "pure" Free Gentoo. > This is my first post here, so I apologize if it's misdirected. I'm not > sure if I'd really be able to help much on the technical side, but if > this garners any cooperation, I'll gladly help out with anything I can. > If someone could point me in the right direction, I'd be very grateful. I'd say this is probably better suited for gentoo-project, but it's probably ok to start here, to gauge interest :) Best of luck R=E9mi