From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5oh9-0000tQ-K2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:51:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D458E0C11; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71148E0C11 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so6755517ywh.32 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:51:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kIm/JG5fzcjkfkAof2FORekpB2xK9v0p/tMLm+H0wAc=; b=hgmttuOvQWaDHRwXsDQBTLv/UDjFJD3LWdT02UK4XQvl55xFX0axXkrk3orEWRSH3O 9BUBF8B8phJ4mGDneUIQpruPGvMmtZfqtoAv572isOeUYcdeNFP9LBAVxn5CjDknNfdl FdGgIQcQ0BNsOXeUUZBHcH6Q+6K/lbHZz0A/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Dy1OCusP1a0EQe6HTUmGGlJ7LIlMRsNkgTRvPpBG/Ug/+HzJ9DGDOtPC28YGxEeWBA cW1CsUyGxFDzAY+wZglo+SsU9xwK1atJEJwVVydpyV7O2kGbl/fR6/j8c0m6IZScIR4H SjE0LR+I4gBwRcEPxPhYwWSyUoJ7GRQYQ+4gQ= Received: by 10.150.113.13 with SMTP id l13mr3795597ybc.248.1257375074149; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-115-242.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.115.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm531238ywf.5.2009.11.04.14.51.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:51:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF2055F.7090509@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:51:11 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20091007 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed References: <4AD8D301.7020903@gentoo.org> <1255775174.2212.1393.camel@tablet> <4AD99DE5.7060701@gentoo.org> <4AF1778D.2060905@gmail.com> <4AF187BE.9030601@gmail.com> <4AF1F6C0.6000902@gmail.com> <1257371867.14013.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1257371867.14013.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4383cf11-c27c-4aea-bdf8-b191fb17f297 X-Archives-Hash: 38b473f2c4fc8bdac48916edb25b3768 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mi=C3=A9, 04-11-2009 a las 15:48 -0600, Dale escribi=C3=B3: > =20 >> Ben de Groot wrote: >> =20 >>> 2009/11/4 Dale : >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> Is it possible to just mask and maybe keyword KDE 3? >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>> This has already been decided. We are moving it to an overlay. >>> I can't think of a valid reason why you would not use that overlay. >>> =20 >>> =20 >> Because I don't want one more thing to have to deal with. Gentoo is >> enough fun already.=20 >> >> =20 > But, why do you think having kde3 stuff hardmasked in main tree in > unmaintained state will be better than having it on a external > overlay? :-/ > > Also, think about gnome users (like me) that will not need to download > all kde3 ebuilds on every sync :-) Yes, maybe they aren't so much but I > still fail to see why do you think that preserving kde3 hardmasked is > better than using an overlay=20 > > Regards > > =20 Because I am not familiar with overlays. I have never used one and hope to keep it that way. If it was hardmasked, just run autounmask kde-meta:3.5 or something similar and carry on. Naturally that wouldn't last forever. It would eventually have to go away but most likely it only needs to be there for a couple months, maybe three months. I really believe KDE will be stable and working well in the near future.=20 As for the tree, until recently I was on a very slow dial-up and just syncing the tree took about 45 minutes on average. I never complained about Gnome being there. I don't use Gnome but I know other people do.=20 I did try it once tho. Just prefer KDE. Sorry. I won't complain about Gnome if you don't complain about KDE. lol Dale :-) :-)=20