From: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:27:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF06812.9020406@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911031648.04090.patrick@gentoo.org>
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> a while ago Thilo Bangert spent quite some time on filing lots of bugs. While
> I appreciate such QA efforts I don't agree with those bugs at all.
>
> All of these bugs were for the use of the FEATURES variable in ebuilds, which
> is a very convenient thing to work around issues.
> For example known failures with FEATURE="distcc" or funky things like test
> failures with FEATURES="userpriv" and so on. All other methods of expressing
> that are much more verbose and inherently sucky.
What other methods are there?
> One example of such a bug is https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278960
> for those too lazy to search.
For that very case I remember that "test" is a global use flag as well
and that therefore at least
if hasq test ${FEATURES} ; then
[..]
fi
has a cleaner use-flag-based equivalent.
# euse -i test
global use flags (searching: test)
************************************************************
[- ] test - Workaround to pull in packages needed to run with
FEATURES=test. Portage-2.1.2 handles this internally,
so don't set it in make.conf/package.use anymore
> To quote:
> "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration variable not
> specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds or eclasses."
Makes sense to me atm.
> Well then, I suggest we finally start documenting reality and fix PMS. The use
> of the FEATURES variable, while it has been there for ... uhm ... as long as I
> can think back, actually :), should not be randomly suppressed.
>
> So ... what's your opinion? Should we do things as they are correct, or as
> they are specified in PMS? ( /me points at bash 3.0 )
My opinion is: please stop dissing PMS, it doesn't help anybody.
I have requested that from you before.
Would a patch for the next EAPI theoretically impossible?
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-03 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-03 15:48 [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse? Patrick Lauer
2009-11-03 17:27 ` Sebastian Pipping [this message]
2009-11-03 20:36 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-11-03 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-03 22:28 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-11-04 0:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-11-04 8:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-11-05 1:36 ` Ryan Hill
2009-11-05 4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] a pragmatic approach to FEATURES [was FEATURES use or misuse?] Brian Harring
2009-11-05 8:49 ` Thilo Bangert
2009-11-05 9:36 ` Brian Harring
2009-11-08 9:21 ` Thilo Bangert
2009-11-03 21:26 ` [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse? Alexis Ballier
2009-11-03 22:04 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-11-03 22:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-04 0:33 ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-11-04 8:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-11-03 23:04 ` David Leverton
2009-11-04 1:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-04 22:12 ` Peter Hjalmarsson
2009-11-05 5:04 ` Brian Harring
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