From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2q5T-0004xK-AR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:44:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D60FE085D; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tommyserver.de (unknown [85.14.198.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EE9E085D for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.22] (Q19f0.q.pppool.de [89.53.25.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tommyserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 784A76F4F for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:44:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AE73158.2010908@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:43:52 +0100 From: Thomas Sachau Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME References: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE6012C.6010307@gentoo.org> <200910262140.17777.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE61BA1.1030106@gentoo.org> <4AE62008.5070504@gentoo.org> <4AE71AAC.80705@gentoo.org> <20091027165438.GA7684@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20091027165438.GA7684@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=211CA2D4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA5F295DBC3556E972A627F29" X-Archives-Salt: 657f6fbd-d28b-497a-8d96-34cbbc72f616 X-Archives-Hash: e7ac9ac6c22494ce21aa8f64def58104 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA5F295DBC3556E972A627F29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable William Hubbs schrieb: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: >> R??mi Cardona wrote: >>> Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a ??crit : >>>> Gentoo is about choice. >>> No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the abilit= y=20 >>> and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ needs. >>> >>> Gentoo does _not_ cater to all the possible needs. >>> >>> This is somewhat off-topic, but it irks me every time I see/hear it, = so=20 >>> there. >> Well, I'm not sure I see any contradiction. When people say that gent= oo=20 >> is about choice, it means that we should give the end-user flexibility= =20 >> whenever it is feasible. Of course that doesn't mean that there shoul= d=20 >> be a lunar-lander-in-a-box use flag. However, if KDE 4.2 includes a=20 >> lunar lander module we should in fact add such a flag for the benefit = of=20 >> those of us who don't own space programs. >=20 > Agreed. However, I think the discussion is around whether we should en= able > the lunar-lander-in-a-box use flag by default and where it should be > enabled by us if we do enable it. >=20 > Since profiles override IUSE defaults, if we enable the flag in the > profiles, this means that it will be enabled for all packages that have= > the use flag, regardless of whether they are KDE related, unless the > user disables the flag in make.conf or package.use. >=20 > On the other hand, if we enable it with IUSE defaults at the > package level, it lets the user decide whether or not they want it to b= e > enabled for their entire system by editing make.conf. Are you sure about this part? Afaik IUSE defaults overrides make.conf, yo= u will have to explicitly add an entry to package.use for every package, where it is enabled per IU= SE default. --=20 Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --------------enigA5F295DBC3556E972A627F29 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEKAAYFAkrnMV0ACgkQG7kqcTWJkGfO8wQAyab6lez+DCXgs1r2ox3p7oGd QivwwdODDHQBnqgFU9smzC9PKVu1tm0G4h2ckOv5xPoaPFd0dMPSIsKk+7HU7uaE kAiwTr8XXxN91Be/eACdx1eII693grNc5yprCVetHIm2alkGrfMxznzEdl7/pQ4O z8VjnOqh7vHa97mWYak= =q7tB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA5F295DBC3556E972A627F29--