From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2Xar-0005FQ-JN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:59:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C1A5E0969; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B9DE0969; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw.thefreemanclan.net ([96.245.54.239]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KS5002IR6EBNJW1@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net>; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:59:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.thefreemanclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7B5175A82E; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AE61BA1.1030106@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:58:57 -0400 From: Richard Freeman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090912) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME References: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE6012C.6010307@gentoo.org> <200910262140.17777.reavertm@gmail.com> In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 04061672-01ae-44d1-a944-84508b32ee66 X-Archives-Hash: e1d1bcda47463ef2ebda4fc47cd5f4ab Duncan wrote: > Actually, yes. Gentoo has never been a hand-holding distribution. We > try to provide documentation and reasonable defaults for any apps the > user chooses to install, and let the user configure what they will. > Gentoo is about choice. Well, except for the choice to not have to choose... I don't see why having some nice polished sets of use flags is a bad thing. Personally, I find it a pain when I've emerged half of my system only to find out I left out some critical use flag (my use flags take up several lines now). Sure, leave users a choice, but there is no harm in giving them some pointers. Gentoo should be fully usable in a USE="" state, but that doesn't mean that we need to make users start out from this point.