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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:24:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE32A53.2080107@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE209E6.7020707@gentoo.org>

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Petteri Räty schrieb:
> Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over profiles or via IUSE
>> +flag). Whats the reason for forcing a big load of default enabled USE flags on every user including
>> more dependencies, more compile time, more wasted disk space and more possible vulnerabilities
>> except some users, who complain about a missing feature and are not able to think and enable a USE
>> flag for that feature?
>>
> 
> One possible reason is that our packages should follow upstream policy
> and maybe upstreams usually like to keep things enabled rather than
> disabled.
> 
> Regards,
> Petteri
> 
> 

With that argument you could request to enable all useflags by default. Its ok in my eyes, if you
follow upstream the way tarballs are created (e.g. qt move to splitted qt packages or the other way
round). Something else would make maintainence part much harder. But i disagree on the part for
"follow upstream policy for default enabled USE flags".
Gentoo is about choice and i would like to have the choice to disable most USE flags by default and
with an easy way, e.g. by choising a profile with less default enabled USE flags. Forcing every user
to disable many or almost all flags independent of his profile would make Gentoo less userfriendly
in general without a good reason. If upstream does not want to support a disabled USE flag, they
should not offer the choice to disable it in the first place.

-- 
Thomas Sachau

Gentoo Linux Developer


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-24 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-23 16:56 [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default Thomas Sachau
2009-10-23 19:32 ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-10-24 16:14   ` Thomas Sachau
2009-10-23 19:54 ` Petteri Räty
2009-10-24 16:03   ` Pacho Ramos
2009-10-24 16:24   ` Thomas Sachau [this message]
2009-10-24 19:38     ` William Hubbs
2009-10-24  0:55 ` Alistair Bush
2009-10-24 16:35   ` Thomas Sachau
2009-11-06 23:40     ` Ed W
2009-11-07  7:46       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan

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