From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N1jGa-0003AI-54 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:14:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25625E08E6; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9F9E08E6 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.22] (Q4522.q.pppool.de [89.53.69.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FBF66F99 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AE327F1.3050704@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:14:41 +0200 From: Thomas Sachau Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default References: <4AE1E033.3030707@gentoo.org> <4AE204CF.2020309@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4AE204CF.2020309@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=211CA2D4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE60E123C87F9027BB9227EFE" X-Archives-Salt: e686c65b-39c3-4baa-89b8-4848ffc252a5 X-Archives-Hash: d74c6b576b22a92ec404925004c8e83f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE60E123C87F9027BB9227EFE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sebastian Pipping schrieb: > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either= over profiles or via IUSE >> +flag). >=20 > I'm not sure for how much of the IUSE=3D"+foo" cases this applies but I= > can explain one of them: >=20 > In xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1 there is +fortune in IUSE > because otherwise previous users of 4.6.1 would be missing the feature > enabled by it. >=20 > If you worry that +foo is becoming a trend _without_ strong reason you > could try enforcing documentation for in metadata.xml (through new tags= ) > maybe. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sebastian >=20 >=20 This is a nice example for a default enabled USE flag, where i see no str= ong reason to enable it. Now i dont know that package nor do i know how many users actually use th= at feature. If the majority uses that feature, it seems ok to me to enable it by default (either by a= specific xfce profile or default enabled USE flag). If its on the other hand a minority, which jus= t complains louder, i would still request the useflag to stay offline by default. Together with this, i am glad to see the move of KDE/GNOME specific USE f= lags from normal desktop profile to KDE/GNOME subprofiles. In most cases, users will either use on= e of those or none of them. With this change, it will give a better situation for the majority of our= users. And for those, who want to use both profiles, they can have a look at portage manpage, as be= telgeuse suggested. --=20 Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --------------enigE60E123C87F9027BB9227EFE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEKAAYFAkrjJ/gACgkQG7kqcTWJkGdczAQAntPHonU4RVmlguWF/Mzjgqvf jKXlZ8VF+beF/sat7AV5n/UaewRAr1nGyco/ML6xubcER1mXuszefoajpg2ZrLYP BCqUC2GTEurypvC5lSNMzvqa4+naY0kIKUYf+E3n0BAl488IzLgFAcRhwWaQbXBk sW+Q5YWcKwprCxj8xz4= =HGrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE60E123C87F9027BB9227EFE--