From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N1hA7-00052M-H2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0F7BE091C; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jolexa.net (jolexa.net [69.164.197.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B272FE091C for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jolexa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406DF5B7A9 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jolexa.net Received: from jolexa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jolexa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l19zAQ3NvQnl for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (c-24-245-20-2.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.245.20.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jolexa.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0F345B7A4 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4AE30863.1060007@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:00:03 -0500 From: Jeremy Olexa User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090920) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME References: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1f051e20-eaf1-402f-b1dc-b88d406bd452 X-Archives-Hash: 8db748393c12de609eaed40da9051f79 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Hi there! > > Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22 > Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo > GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting > desktop profile to DE-specific subprofiles, to avoid bloat and provide desktop > specific separation which should result in desktop subprofiles being actually > practical. > It's been proposed to: > > - keep 'desktop' profile but strip it from any desktop specific features and > settings, making it default recommended choice for anyone using non-KDE and > non-GNOME desktop environment, yet avoiding USE flags bloat. Any other DE is > free to join and create own DE-specific subprofile if needed. Hi, Just so it is clear and there aren't any questions in the future. The XFCE team maintains a set of recommended global use flags in our docs[1] (maintained by Josh (nightmorph)). So, whatever direction this ends up, xfce will not be going down that same road. Additionally, One cool thing about Gentoo is that you *can* have more than one DE installed. We don't have things like KGentoo =P I hope this profile thing doesn't make it harder for end users to use GNOME and KDE at the same time. -Jeremy [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml > > - create 'KDE' (or 'kde') and 'GNOME' (or 'gnome') subprofiles within > 'desktop' profile and move any desktop specific things there. This should in > theory allow us to not add 'recommended' IUSE defaults to desktop specific > packages, but keep those settings in profile - making profile effectively 'out > of the box' solution for those who need it. > > If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this > change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list. > > Thanks >