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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1
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Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:41:32 +0200, Dawid W=C4=99gli=C5=84ski <cla@gent=
oo.org>
> wrote:
> =20
>> On Sunday 20 of September 2009 00:32:28 Dale wrote:
>> =20
>>>> ~arch is for testing ebuilds, not the upstream package
>>>> =20
>>> So it would be OK to mark something "stable" even tho portage itself
>>> doesn't work with it? Sorry, this makes no sense to me. I run stabl=
e
>>> for the most part and having a package that portage depends on that i=
s
>>> not stable just sounds a little like putting the cart before the hors=
e.
>>>
>>> See some of the other replies as to why this is a not so good idea.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-) :-)
>>> =20
>> You mix it up. Portage works with python 3.1. If an user switches to
>> python=20
>> 3.1 as the main interpreter, it's possible that his own scripts won't
>> work.=20
>> =20
>
> Yes?
>
> # eselect python set 2
> # emerge -s foo
> File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 41
> except PermissionDenied, e:
> ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
>
> Ummm, yes, it works *beautifully*, you see. Nothing else to add.
>
> =20
>> Marking it stable sometine in november give's some time to ebuilds=20
>> maintainers to fix their python based apps just like it's done with gc=
c=20
>> stabilization.
>> =20
>
> That's not the usual case. In Gentoo we have a serious policy of not
> marking as stable things until it has passed one month without any seri=
ous
> bug report about it. And you are proposing to break this rule for a cor=
e
> piece of the OS, right, wonderful.=20
>
> Instead I say, first fix the stuff, and then we can start planning the
> switch to 3.1
>
> =20
My point exactly. No package, especially a core package that portage
depends on, should just be thrown into the tree and just assume that it
will work for everyone else.=20
Dale
:-) :-)=20