From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmxFS-0005gf-Pi for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:08:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DA06E09A8; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9A5E09A8 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so7770581and.1 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rNt5XK4b6T/I1OY7oblvT62D1dGr/CCHjlWHLoqRpfI=; b=nJ/7DfZXRuBcOkXqwoLASJmMkYFQpMtjAxH36DdvAwLprWX3zUSexuwu4iGHk63DSl yO+JAVOBS8A+/Z7DKtuVqmGKUDzt9ucvrJI4vTebB+TG6poy58gRgVAFq8PKNKbdv2L/ /al8p4lpaL/PfEt+alJzbCS1SHSh6Dcb8vGtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i8yAal1AN4Mjm+oj2u5VWh2UWAf7Ett3kdO0EwRuxt7IYHG8y0vDkiUNyuFkDMiGXa Bdch1di/JRHBb6w/Ly7MqyWXF4dcOJqgStZZUMjvIzLy1635+ranwzSPC3CJKdQzltVu 37GjaquatJ+VkeEe9UoaWOs8JlTWdwv7QT+yM= Received: by 10.100.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr5585944anb.180.1252879720956; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-144-216-40.jan.bellsouth.net [70.144.216.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d29sm3367795and.1.2009.09.13.15.08.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AAD6D66.2060007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:08:38 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090905 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future References: <4AAAD714.1010107@hartwork.org> <4b0462b4d4cc0f26a7b45e6787d51890@localhost> <4AAD0377.8070001@gmail.com> <1252854352.31198.0.camel@centar> <4AAD13AF.7080905@gmail.com> <4AAD4D87.10908@hartwork.org> <4AAD633F.7050003@gmail.com> <20090913235429.116199bf@neon> In-Reply-To: <20090913235429.116199bf@neon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f844524b-4851-433f-a9f5-35e760c75947 X-Archives-Hash: 0ef46c960dde1d75637eaddf36dcb5e0 Alex Legler wrote: > On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:25:19 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> Where are these referrer logs? I don't recall ever doing one of >> those. >> >> > > They are in the web server logs. Apache includes them in the "combined" > log format, or you can add them in a custom log format. > > So cooperation with Infra is required for this sort of analysis. > > >> Hasn't it been said before that Gentoo polls are pretty difficult to >> do and not very accurate? >> > > I fail to see the difficulty of both creating and filling out a survey > on a forums post. > Also, accuracy is always an issue when doing online surveys as people > can submit it multiple times, and there's always the kids that just > click something out of boredom. Don't think that problem is specific to > Gentoo polls. > > Alex > As has been said before, a lot of people don't go to the forums to see the poll. I only go to the forums to search if I have a problem before posting to the list. There may have been a dozen polls on the forums and I would have no idea they happened. Of course, the same could be said about doing a poll on the mailing lists as well. Some Gentoo users that use the forums may not even know the mailing lists exists. I'm not sure any poll could really be accurate no matter which means is used. Add in the kids you thought of and it just adds more confusion. Dale :-) :-)