From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmF8i-0006rR-Lg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:02:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6D3DE0733; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay09.ispgateway.de (smtprelay09.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.43]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B8EE0733 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.179.10.49] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtprelay09.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MmFBF-0002PP-Fq for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:05:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4AAAD714.1010107@hartwork.org> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:02:44 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090820) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gentoo Dev Subject: [gentoo-dev] DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Df-Sender: 874396 X-Archives-Salt: 73ddafe1-67a3-47de-a469-d8a2e60d4f61 X-Archives-Hash: a0f179dfcec7d8757d3654926d79d2b0 Hello there! Among other information the Gentoo page at DistroWatch [1] displays a table on about 200 selected packages [2] and how up to date Gentoo is per package. I assume that DistroWatch is still one of the first places people go to get a feeling for a Distro they heard about, besides Wikpedia and ${distro}.org. The freshness of these 200 packages have influence on how people perceive Gentoo on DistroWatch. While the tree as a whole is what we should keep as up to date as possible keeping these 200 packages (list further down) up to date can therefore be of particular importance. >From a quick look at the table these packages seem to need extra care in Gentoo: cups (1.4.0) 1.3.11 <-- latest in Gentoo unstable/testing koffice (2.0.2) 1.6.3 mysql (5.1.38) 5.0.84 perl (5.10.1) 5.8.8 php (5.3.0) 5.2.10 samba (3.4.1) 3.3.7 Packages not found in Gentoo that DistroWatch monitors across discros are: apt synaptic .. Debian stuff, that Gentoo does not have packaged apache mod_ssl .. Apache 1.x seems gone from Gentoo (I suppose security) openjdk .. Not packaged in Gentoo, no idea why checkinstall Miro .. Not in official tree (yet?), available through an Overlay xmms .. Removed for security reasons, available through an Overlay Maybe we should move Miro to the main tree? Since today DistroWatch's sources on tree freshness are [3] and [4] as they provide more accurate data than previously used sources do. What is the process to migrate the generating script over to Gentoo infrastructure? See you, Sebastian [1] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gentoo [2] http://distrowatch.com/packages.php [3] http://www.hartwork.org/public/distrowatch_gentoo_x86_latest_stable.txt [4] http://www.hartwork.org/public/distrowatch_gentoo_x86_latest_unstable.txt List of all Gentoo packages currently monitored =============================================== abiword app-office/abiword AfterStep x11-wm/afterstep alpine mail-client/alpine alsa-lib media-libs/alsa-lib amarok media-sound/amarok apache-tomcat www-servers/tomcat ati-driver x11-drivers/ati-drivers audacity media-sound/audacity autoconf sys-devel/autoconf automake sys-devel/automake avidemux media-video/avidemux banshee media-sound/banshee bash app-shells/bash bind net-dns/bind binutils sys-devel/binutils bison sys-devel/bison blender media-gfx/blender bluefish app-editors/bluefish bzip2 app-arch/bzip2 cdrkit app-cdr/cdrkit cinelerra media-video/cinelerra compiz x11-wm/compiz coreutils sys-apps/coreutils cups net-print/cups curl net-misc/curl cvs dev-util/cvs db sys-libs/db DeviceKit sys-apps/devicekit dhcp net-misc/dhcp diffutils sys-apps/diffutils digikam media-gfx/digikam dillo www-client/dillo dosbox games-emulation/dosbox dovecot net-mail/dovecot doxygen app-doc/doxygen e2fsprogs sys-fs/e2fsprogs eclipse dev-util/eclipse-sdk emacs app-editors/emacs enlightenment x11-wm/enlightenment epiphany www-client/epiphany evolution mail-client/evolution exim mail-mta/exim fetchmail net-mail/fetchmail ffmpeg media-video/ffmpeg file sys-apps/file findutils sys-apps/findutils firebird dev-db/firebird firefox www-client/mozilla-firefox flex sys-devel/flex fluxbox x11-wm/fluxbox freetype media-libs/freetype f-spot media-gfx/f-spot gawk sys-apps/gawk gcc sys-devel/gcc gettext sys-devel/gettext gftp net-ftp/gftp ghostscript app-text/ghostscript-gpl gimp media-gfx/gimp git dev-util/git glade dev-util/glade glibc sys-libs/glibc gnucash app-office/gnucash gnumeric app-office/gnumeric gnupg app-crypt/gnupg gparted sys-block/gparted grep sys-apps/grep groff sys-apps/groff grub sys-boot/grub gstreamer media-libs/gstreamer gtk+ x11-libs/gtk+ gzip app-arch/gzip hal sys-apps/hal httpd www-servers/apache icewm x11-wm/icewm ImageMagick media-gfx/imagemagick inkscape media-gfx/inkscape iptables net-firewall/iptables jre dev-java/sun-jre-bin k3b app-cdr/k3b kaffeine media-video/kaffeine kdebase kde-base/kde-meta kdevelop dev-util/kdevelop kdewebdev kde-base/kdewebdev koffice app-office/koffice krusader kde-misc/krusader ktorrent net-p2p/ktorrent less sys-apps/less lftp net-ftp/lftp libgnome gnome-base/libgnome libselinux sys-libs/libselinux libtool sys-devel/libtool libvorbis media-libs/libvorbis lighttpd www-servers/lighttpd lilo sys-boot/lilo links www-client/links linux sys-kernel/vanilla-sources lvm sys-fs/lvm2 lxde-common lxde-base/lxde-common lynx www-client/lynx lyx app-office/lyx m4 sys-devel/m4 MailScanner mail-filter/MailScanner make sys-devel/make man sys-apps/man man-pages sys-apps/man-pages mc app-misc/mc mod_perl www-apache/mod_perl module-init-tools sys-apps/module-init-tools mono dev-lang/mono MPlayer media-video/mplayer mutt mail-client/mutt mysql dev-db/mysql nautilus gnome-base/nautilus ncftp net-ftp/ncftp ncurses sys-libs/ncurses ndiswrapper net-wireless/ndiswrapper nedit app-editors/nedit netatalk net-fs/netatalk NetBeans dev-util/netbeans NetworkManager net-misc/networkmanager nmap net-analyzer/nmap ntfs-3g sys-fs/ntfs3g NVIDIA x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers openbox x11-wm/openbox openldap net-nds/openldap OpenOffice.org app-office/openoffice openssh net-misc/openssh openssl dev-libs/openssl openvas-client net-analyzer/openvas-client opera www-client/opera parted sys-apps/parted perl dev-lang/perl php dev-lang/php phpMyAdmin dev-db/phpmyadmin pidgin net-im/pidgin postfix mail-mta/postfix postgresql dev-db/postgresql-server ppp net-dialup/ppp procmail mail-filter/procmail proftpd net-ftp/proftpd pulseaudio media-sound/pulseaudio Python dev-lang/python qcad sci-misc/qcad qemu app-emulation/qemu qpopper net-mail/qpopper qt-x11 x11-libs/qt reiserfsprogs sys-fs/reiserfsprogs rpm app-arch/rpm rp-pppoe net-dialup/rp-pppoe rsync net-misc/rsync ruby dev-lang/ruby samba net-fs/samba sane-backends media-gfx/sane-backends scim app-i18n/scim screen app-misc/screen scribus app-office/scribus seamonkey www-client/seamonkey sed sys-apps/sed sendmail mail-mta/sendmail snort net-analyzer/snort SpamAssassin mail-filter/spamassassin sqlite dev-db/sqlite squid net-proxy/squid squirrelmail mail-client/squirrelmail subversion dev-util/subversion sylpheed mail-client/sylpheed sysvinit sys-apps/sysvinit tar app-arch/tar tcl dev-lang/tcl tcpdump net-analyzer/tcpdump texinfo sys-apps/texinfo texlive app-text/texlive thunderbird mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird tightvnc net-misc/tightvnc udev sys-fs/udev util-linux sys-apps/util-linux vim app-editors/vim VirtualBox app-emulation/virtualbox-ose vlc media-video/vlc vnc net-misc/vnc vsftpd net-ftp/vsftpd webmin app-admin/webmin wget net-misc/wget wicd net-misc/wicd WindowMaker x11-wm/windowmaker wine app-emulation/wine wireshark net-analyzer/wireshark xchat net-irc/xchat xen app-emulation/xen xfce xfce-base/xfce4-meta xfsprogs sys-fs/xfsprogs xine-lib media-libs/xine-lib xinetd sys-apps/xinetd xorg-server x11-base/xorg-server yaboot sys-boot/yaboot yum sys-apps/yum zlib sys-libs/zlib Zope net-zope/zope