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From: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:13:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8D21E7.2040604@trelane.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12148931.hacUC6rHWN@news.friendly-coders.info>

Steven J Long wrote:
> Rémi Cardona wrote:
>
>   
>> Le 18/08/2009 03:30, Steven J Long a écrit :
>> [snip]
>>
>> Steven,
>>
>> This thread was dead for more than 4 days. Yet you pick it up and you
>> try to pick a fight with Ciaran.
>>
>>     
> No I was answering the points he made, specifically he gave the fact that
> something's not used in the tree as a reason not to put it in PMS. The
> prior mail about an alternative perspective on the process was about his
> continual digs at portage and its developers. You're right that much of it
> was more relevant to -project, but when I post there it gets ignored:
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_6c82019575749b628de20de060149782.xml
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_28e2659029951f7edeab10b01cd21d53.xml
>   

I think it's clear at this point that Ciaran was the wrong person to
have in charge of the PMS or EAPI spec's despite his willingness to do
the work..  I tried to talk to him about having Paludis support an
extension of PMS which Portage already supported.  His response was to
DEMAND that portage change his behavior and throw warnings about this
because it wasn't in the PMS (which I will note is an accurately
acronym'd document).

ttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273261

The users simply don't care about this stuff, and throwing warnings at
every user in the manner advocated is abuse.

This sort of behavior simply needs to stop.  Using bugs.gentoo.org to
attack Funtoo, which utilizes Portage, in the manner which has been done
usurps the Gentoo Council's authority, the Portage devs, Funtoo, and
most importantly our ability to innovate.
And hell, if we're not going to innovate, lets all please pack up and go
home.

Andrew D Kirch
Funtoo





Andrew D Kirch
Funtoo.org



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-12 17:58 [gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' Jeremy Olexa
2009-08-12 18:07 ` Ben de Groot
2009-08-12 18:15 ` Samuli Suominen
2009-08-12 18:41 ` Tomáš Chvátal
2009-08-12 18:46   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-13  5:55     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-08-13 10:35       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-08-13 13:32         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-08-13 13:45         ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-08-13 12:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-14  0:13         ` Ryan Hill
2009-08-21 14:25       ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-08-21 15:20         ` David Leverton
2009-08-21 21:17         ` Ryan Hill
2009-08-21 21:42           ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-08-21 21:46             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-21 23:10               ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-08-21 23:44                 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-08-22  0:29                   ` Chip Parker
2009-08-22  0:34                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-22 21:47                       ` Chip Parker
2009-08-22 21:52                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-23  0:26                           ` Chip Parker
2009-08-23  0:32                             ` David Leverton
2009-08-23  1:10                               ` Chip Parker
2009-08-23  1:16                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-23  1:19                                 ` David Leverton
2009-08-23  0:34                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-23  2:39                               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-08-23 10:07                                 ` David Leverton
2009-08-22  1:45                     ` Ryan Hill
2009-08-22  5:32                       ` Andrew D Kirch
2009-08-22  9:35                         ` Arttu V.
2009-08-22 20:48                         ` Ryan Hill
2009-08-24 18:01                         ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-08-23 15:26                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2009-08-22  0:54                   ` AllenJB
2009-08-22  6:18                     ` Tiziano Müller
2009-08-22  6:23                       ` Andrew D Kirch
2009-08-22 13:06                         ` Tiziano Müller
2009-08-22 19:39                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-22 20:22                       ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-08-22 20:25                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-22 20:50                         ` Ryan Hill
2009-08-22  3:40                   ` Duncan
2009-08-13 12:50     ` Mark Bateman
2009-08-13 12:56       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-13 17:32         ` Mark Bateman
2009-08-13 17:53           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-13 18:06             ` Mark Bateman
2009-08-13 18:14               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-13 18:22         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-08-13 18:34           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-18  1:30             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-08-18  6:04               ` Rémi Cardona
2009-08-20 10:02                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-08-20 10:13                   ` Andrew D Kirch [this message]
2009-08-20 14:52                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-20 17:36                       ` Andrew D Kirch
2009-08-20 20:23                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-08-21  0:04                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-08-21  2:15                         ` Chip Parker
2009-08-21  2:41                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-08-12 18:53   ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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