[gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Samuli Suominen]

I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs
like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a
package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching
entries and remove them too.

Anyhow, package.mask's and package.use.mask's should all be cleaned now,
unless I missed something ofc. Thanks to idl0r for this scripts!

Main package.mask has still some ancient cruft left that aren't so
obvious why they are masked to everyone, except the person who masked
them in the first place and unfortunately not all of them are around
anymore.. :-/

If you have some.. please audit it.

Thanks, Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Jeremy Olexa]

Samuli Suominen wrote:
> I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs
> like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a
> package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching
> entries and remove them too.
> 
> Anyhow, package.mask's and package.use.mask's should all be cleaned now,
> unless I missed something ofc. Thanks to idl0r for this scripts!
> 
> Main package.mask has still some ancient cruft left that aren't so
> obvious why they are masked to everyone, except the person who masked
> them in the first place and unfortunately not all of them are around
> anymore.. :-/
> 
> If you have some.. please audit it.
> 
> Thanks, Samuli
> 

Thank you for doing that. What.. 1000 lines removed from profiles/ ?? :)

-Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Nirbheek Chauhan]

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominen<ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs
> like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a
> package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching
> entries and remove them too.
>

This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz.

-- 
~Nirbheek Chauhan

GNOME Team, Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Petteri Räty]

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Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominen<ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs
>> like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a
>> package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching
>> entries and remove them too.
>>
> 
> This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz.
> 

Ebuild quiz:

19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree?

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Nirbheek Chauhan]

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Räty<betelgeuse@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
>> This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz.
>>
>
> Ebuild quiz:
>
> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree?
>

Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the
answer needs to be fixed ;)


-- 
~Nirbheek Chauhan

GNOME Team, Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Samuli Suominen]

Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Räty<betelgeuse@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
>>> This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz.
>>>
>> Ebuild quiz:
>>
>> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree?
>>
> 
> Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the
> answer needs to be fixed ;)
> 
> 

19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you
need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it be?

-Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Thilo Bangert]

Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> said:
> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Räty<betelgeuse@gentoo.org> 
wrote:
> >> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> >>> This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end
> >>> quiz.
> >>
> >> Ebuild quiz:
> >>
> >> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree?
> >
> > Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the
> > answer needs to be fixed ;)
>
> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you
> need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it
> be?
>

and where is the answer documented?
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164130

> -Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Michael Hammer]

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I really appreciate your work on that!

g, mueli

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Thomas Anderson]

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On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 11:09:16PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri R??ty<betelgeuse@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> >>> This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz.
> >>>
> >> Ebuild quiz:
> >>
> >> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree?
> >>
> > 
> > Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the
> > answer needs to be fixed ;)
> > 
> > 
> 
> 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you
> need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it be?
> 
> -Samuli
> 

In general, the quiz is supposed to test and educate recruits about Gentoo
development practices. But if all parts of a question are asked in questions
like that(where it's obvious that 'no' isn't a valid answer) it's just going to
result in more googling rather than thinking hard and having knowledge about how
and why it's done. I think the original wording is fine because the recruit will
have to think hard about what else is needed and consult documentation without
knowing exactly what he is looking for. If needed the mentor can help out with
points like that, but if at all possible it should be initially answered by the
recruit.

So please, let's not make the quiz into a set of yes/no questions(an
exaggeration I know, but still the same effect).

Regards,
Thomas
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

[Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh]

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Thomas Anderson wrote:
> In general, the quiz is supposed to test and educate recruits about Gentoo
> development practices. But if all parts of a question are asked in questions
> like that(where it's obvious that 'no' isn't a valid answer) it's just going to
> result in more googling rather than thinking hard and having knowledge about how
> and why it's done. I think the original wording is fine because the recruit will
> have to think hard about what else is needed and consult documentation without
> knowing exactly what he is looking for. If needed the mentor can help out with
> points like that, but if at all possible it should be initially answered by the
> recruit.
>
> So please, let's not make the quiz into a set of yes/no questions(an
> exaggeration I know, but still the same effect).
>   
While I agree with the sentiment, I think the original wording is too
far away from
the expected answer. How about:

What placed should be cleaned, when removing an ebuild from the tree?
> Regards,
> Thomas
>   



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