From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ML7yr-0005Ss-TU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:56:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E35FCE05C7; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.trelane.net (mail.trelane.net [66.93.203.104]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD53E05C7 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trelane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E120C18668A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at trelane.net Received: from mail.trelane.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (master.trelane.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xxyTKE4QykLk for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trelane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619301866E9 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.99] (router.trelane.net [66.93.203.152]) by mail.trelane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14CF18668A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A483B69.60000@trelane.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:25 -0400 From: Andrew D Kirch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090510) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections References: <200906252100.52295.wk@mailstation.de> <8b4c83ad0906251250k474d15f6vdef8f1afed8d2baf@mail.gmail.com> <20090625205746.287e9bc7@snowcone> <8b4c83ad0906252334n512a5f00ra2f5af98c0303ba0@mail.gmail.com> <4A44718E.5010004@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4A44718E.5010004@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e36c4322-93d6-40a0-b1af-4f159cf65ebd X-Archives-Hash: 8564b6d1ec4f24729db1292af0a4541b Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > =20 >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >> =20 >>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:20:09 +0530 >>> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> =20 >>>> Allowing him to proxy in a council meeting is both disallowed >>>> (non-gentoo devs cannot be on the council) >>>> =20 >>> Please point to the rule that says that a non-developer cannot be on >>> the Council, and please point to the rule that says that a Council >>> member cannot appoint a non-developer as their proxy. I see no mentio= n >>> of either in GLEP 39, which only restricts voting of Council members = to >>> developers, and only restricts proxies to not having one person with >>> multiple votes. >>> >>> =20 >> Oh so you'll argue semantics now? The spirit of the rule is >> excessively clear. No non-gentoo-developer can be a member of council >> -- permanent, temporary, or proxy. >> >> If a council member can't find a gentoo developer to be their proxy, >> that says a lot about the council member. >> >> In any case, discussing this with you is completely m00t given my past >> experiences with discussions with you. >> >> >> -- >> ~Nirbheek Chauhan >> >> =20 > > Actually, please read GLEP 39 and you will see that it doesn't restrict > council members to developers only. Basically under the current rules I > think it's technically right to be proxied by anyone. If you don't thin= k > being proxied by non developers is wise, don't vote for those council > members next time. If we want to restrict the council to developers > only, we should think about modifying GLEP 39 (which should be done via > a vote among developers as that's they way 39 was agreed upon). > > Regards, > Petteri > > =20 I move that we elect George W Bush and Ciaran McCreesh Council Members For Life. Are these people serious? Andrew